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Nice one Alan!

Jim - why wrap it up? The Baby P one wasn't as there were valid points on both sides. Besides it's only just developing.

Timbo, more the puter geek than I, but surely posting a link to a site where information is hosted is not actually hosting it?
As far as I'm aware no private and confidential information breaching the Data Protection Act is available or hosted on vtr1000.org - maybe Toby or one of the other webby geeks can confirm? Have we any legal eagles on here?

Pretty sure Adolf and Stalin to name but two purportrators of genocide and racist agendas didn't include them in their party policies! These things only came out after they had wooed the masses.

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There's another (quite long) BNP debate going on over on Visordown - Far less 'frindly' & reasoned than this one, but some interesting points being made all the same, in amongst the weak minded bigotry!

Well worth a read IMO

Started of with this little gem:

During their Annual Party Conference in Blackpool today the British National Party added to their already biker friendly agenda. It is already BNP policy to abolish the use of speed cameras but today there was a sensation at the Party Conference when voting members passed a resolution pledging to open up bus lanes to bikers in all UK towns and cities, furthermore the resolution pledged to absolve bikers from congestion charges and to place motorcycles on the same footing as small capacity, low emissions cars and zero rate them for road tax (VED) purposes. The BNP recognise that motorcycles are a major weapon in the battle against road congestion and the battle to reduce vehicle emissions. To these ends, the party wants to encourage increased motorcycle usage.

Read more here

I'd just like to say 'thanks' to the BNP for their 'Biker Friendly' policies ...

"Thanks" for trying to get bikers an even 'worse' name than they already have in some peoples' minds!

"Thanks" but no thanks.

PS - I'm not a racist, nor am I right wing or for that matter a 'looney lefty' either.

If anything, I'm a snob - I hate miscreant scum whatever their colour, creed, or country of birth!

Agreed Graeme.

Complete set of tossers. Love how they use language/views that tend to appeal to "Joe public" but the policies (in general) and motives are completely different...

Like I said before, everyone’s entitled to their opinion that’s why we live in a democracy-and why we have threads like this

Id rather spoon my baldrocks off than vote BNP

alan wrote: Deano lets not forget who the BNP really are they are the National Front im sure you are old enough to remember them mindless skin heads and wombles Nazi's..............and if the bnp (NF) have a right to existence so do every colour of skin or race the only REAL threat in this country and across the world is Terrorism and they come in all skin colours!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep I've no doubt a fair percentage of BNP members are racist thugs. I've also encountered many equally racist black & asian thugs, not that racism can be defined solely as a black vs white issue as I recall much of the 'open' racism I witnessed in London was in fact, black vs asian.
I doubt there's a Country on the Planet where there isn't some degree of resentment toward immigrants, especially where they've arrived in large numbers in a relatively short period. All races are defensive of their customs, culture and heritage - yet whilst we rightly applaud others nationals' pride & patriotism, bizarrely we condemn ourselves as racist for precisely the same beliefs here - well some of us do.

Jbrebel wrote:
Complete set of tossers. Love how they use language/views that tend to appeal to "Joe public" but the policies (in general) and motives are completely different...

. . . . not at all like the Labour Party then huh?

I agree with Deano with regard to racism not being confined to Black Vs White or indeed the 'whites' always being the agressors.

i agree Deano hey i live in Leeds i know lots of black people and asian and can confirm they dont like each other but they dont go preaching or try to convert others to there way of thinking, think ive had my say

im off now to eat some chicken, rice, and peas and ting reeeeeeespect blood freddy elbow elbow claaat.


ps going back to the list on the net the people complaining about there information being leaked WHY are they so worried, because they dont want there friends, neighbours etc etc knowing they are a bnp (nf) member thats why............... if you or i was a member of the labour party, conservative party it wouldnt bother me my details was on show for all to see.

Dean O wrote:

Jbrebel wrote:
Complete set of tossers. Love how they use language/views that tend to appeal to "Joe public" but the policies (in general) and motives are completely different...

. . . . not at all like the Labour Party then huh?

This "discussion" could go on for ages I suppose

At the end of the day we all know what the BNP stand for. I’ve got a lot of close friends and family members that are not "born" English, UK or whatever...yawns...

I just find the whole ethos of the BNP a complete waste of time. When alls said and done-get a life or grow up.

We are all the same when you remove skin colour, ethnicity, creed or religion/belief

Just my ten peneth...

oh i feel so sorry for the members.............NOT........ the shoe's on the other foot now, for all the violence the black,asian, etc etc man women child has suffered over the years.................. i would be worried.

If anything, I'm a snob - I hate miscreant scum whatever their colour, creed, or country of birth!

I can identify with that!

alan wrote:i agree Deano hey i live in Leeds i know lots of black people and asian and can confirm they dont like each other but they dont go preaching or try to convert others to there way of thinking.

oh but they DO alan
in mosques up and down the Country on a daily basis plus a myriad of Islamic Militant internet sites. its not that long ago a mosque was infiltrated by security services & subsequently closed (forgotten where) and so they brazenly preached the same hostility in the street outside for months afterwards - even in front of national TV cameras.

imagine a bunch of white Christians pulling a stunt like that in a Pakistani street - they'd be stoned to death within 5 minutes.
(ps I have a distinctly multi-cultural circle of friends before anyone points any fingers in my direction )

alan wrote:oh i feel so sorry for the members.............NOT........ the shoe's on the other foot now, for all the violence the black,asian, etc etc man women child has suffered over the years.................. i would be worried.

That’s what I cant understand about it all Alan?

Why be so bothered if you’re affiliated with such a party/"politcal" movement???

Like I said before, set of tossers...

some comments on here seem to imply its just a white hating black/asian/none white problem, but with the amount of eastern europeans ie poles lithuanians, and soon romainians, it will soon be a white on white problem and it will still be classed as racism, or will a new phrase be invented for this, and in my opinion a bigger threat than some small band of misguided people is a thing called islam, also a racist group and views on women that wouldnt be out of place in the middle ages, again my own opinion
carl

Like ive said doggit...you could go on about this all day

Waste of time

hi Jbrebel i think your right, thats my last posting on this suject, i feel the need for speed, i mean bikes not the drug
carl

there are some heated feelings coming out here,, people sat on the fence people either side for different reasons....

a lot of people have probably become racist.. although thats the wrong word.. cause if you look it up in the dictionary it dont really fit this situation well...
my very good friend and work colleague is indian... and he has told me all the things people from his country do to expliot our goverment...
dont get me wrong i get pissed off and do think about going BNP..... BUT!!!!
its not to get at the people not born here,, its to get at our government for letting any one exploit our system....

the people to blame are not the immigrants but the government itself.....
but the simple minded people vent their anger towards the people abusing the system...

my buddy chandra patel, told me that they spend years learning a countries way of working and then use it to their advantage....
wombles clever people if you ask me... they work hard and get all they deserve...
yes it pisses me off who ever abuses the system,,,, but the fact remains we shouldnt blame them for it.. and when you look at the grand scheme of it colour of skin has nothing to do with it any more... we have polish, russian chec chinese indian the list goes on.
the people that need putting in the gas chambers are the people who run this decaying country.

p.s im half cut and nearly out of wine!!!!