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Timbo wrote:I hate the french, so does that make me racist?

a racist is some one who sees another race of people as inferior to them....
where you are superior.. you some how feel better than them....

i hate chavs.. with a passion..... i really do.....
have had a few run ins with them and i wombles hate them..
chop their balls off cut out their babymaking eggs,,,, stop em breeding.... CUL THE b8stard...

that dont make me a racist...
its just association with grief....

if a european had been kicked shitless every time he met an english person they would grow to hate english people.... that dont make him racist... just cautious......

but its ok for every one who isnt english to say something like the above and not be flamed...
its got so bad in this country now we cant say sh1t....

in addition to my previous post about immigrants working our flawed system..

i thought i had my finger on the pulse and was clued up on a lot of sh1t that goes on that people shouldnt know...

one flaw in our system is they come over with birth certificates of many children, and as a lot of them have the same names they can claim they are family... also from what i have been told about life in india is you pay for every thing..
you want a doctors degree you pay for it, you want a birth cirtificate you pay for it.. you want a job you pay for it..... cash moves every thing around me.. ( srry quote from fav hip hop track )

any way..
person enters benifits with 8 birth certificates of minors.... all saying said person is the father...
goverment ask to see all 8 children...
person goes to fellow law benders and borrows 8 children..
returns to benifits agency with 8 random children and 8 forged birth certs..

agency gives them what any single parent is allowed
person wires money back to india person then has a very rich family and friends back home..

now who is at fault here?
the person for been clever and finding loop holes in our system or our goverment for not doing wombles all cause they are pussys?

having some one in power to put a stop to this kind of sh1t dont make them racist....... but standing up in public and saying we will stop this will get twisted by the media and that person made a scapegoat for the masses to slander as a racist....

english people love to moan about situations but never have the balls to stand up for what they beleive.. yet any one else can stand up and say what they belive and its ok....

i forgien person gets attacked in our country over religion, its front page news....the sh1t hits the fan.... but only if its an english person doing the attacking.....

in other countries a christian gets killed in the streets, its well tough sh1t,, they shouldnt be preaching that crap out here......

im all for live and let live... i spend my life sat on the fence...
we are all different and all allowed our own way of life..
but...... we as members of the UK are getting BONED big time....

look at places like america.. they have so much cross culture its insane..
every one is accepted..yeah they have more crime than the UK but wombles one state in the US is as big as the UK..

i did start a concise and long reply to this thread but i feel its a waste of my time, as rebel quite rightly says so my parting comment is:


....deano go and watch "American History X" you idiot............

Squiffythewombat wrote:
....deano go and watch "American History X" you idiot............

bit harsh dude....

this is a touchy subject at best,, and in forums its kinda hard to really express our true feelings on a matter as people never read it as the writer intended..
subjects such as this need face to face discussions...

problem with forums is people read a portion of another another persons post and stop reading due to anger and base their own post on small section of that persons pre post...

people should highlight the area they are talking about when they make a retaliation post..

Unless it's just a non-specific anecdote rather than data - then there is provision to take affirmative action over what you know

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAnd ... G_10014876

"Ways you can report benefit theft
There are three ways you can report benefit theft:
Online
Complete an online form on the Department for Work and Pensions website.
Complete benefit thieves reporting form Opens new window
By Telephone
Call the National Benefit Fraud Hotline on 0800 854 440. Lines are open between 7.00 am and 11.00 pm, 7 days a week. It is free and confidential.
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By Post
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chuxsta wrote:in addition to my previous post about immigrants working our flawed system..

i thought i had my finger on the pulse and was clued up on a lot of sh1t that goes on that people shouldnt know...

any way..
person enters benifits with 8 birth certificates of minors.... all saying said person is the father...
goverment ask to see all 8 children...
person goes to fellow law benders and borrows 8 children..
returns to benifits agency with 8 random children and 8 forged birth certs...

wicky,,,

if i knew of such actions personaly i would inform the people that needed to know...

i was just giving one example of what other countries can do to exploit our system. there are many many more... which i was totaly unaware of.
but other countries wishing to leave theirs can educate themselves on and exploit our system...

so as i was saying its not the immigrants that are to blame its the goverment for letting them abuse the loop holes.

this whole topic is a very sore one as i want to move to the USA.. but i got next to no chance if i follow the official channels...

This govt. doesnt think this is wrong
http://www.newnation.co.uk/

But if it was the other way round there would be an outcry to get it shut down.

Also Radio 1 extra......advertised as purely black music???? does this mean that we could do a station with purely white music??? dont be fcuking stupid of coarse we couldnt !!!!!!

Jim.

ps the govt policies fuel raceism

ps the govt policies fuel raceism

well, in that case, stand for your local council, then stand as MP and make a difference to those policies.

Parliament isn't comprised of unelected "masters" but representatives of the people. If, as is the case, only 30-40% of people bother to vote at all, then no wonder we get the politicians we deserve sometimes. I'm as guilty as anyone else - haven't a clue who my local councillor is or what they stand for.

[quote="chuxsta"]

in addition to my previous post about immigrants working our flawed system.
i forgien person gets attacked in our country over religion, its front page news....the sh1t hits the fan.... but only if its an english person doing the attacking.....
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Wrong imo,

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... -20896301/

this made big big news a few years ago ,where some asians, grabbed a young white boy into their car in Glasgow, drove him around, tortured , set on fire alive and murdered him,before they fled to India.
This was not local news but National.

There are plenty people from other countries who come here lawfully, ,to earn good money (compared to their homeland),you can not blame them,only the ones that allow it to happen.

Loads of Polish etc up here ,if they are here legit,and earning money i dont hava a prob with that,there are plenty BRITISH people who have already beat them long ago to "work the system"

Apparently their are 300 BNP members in Scotland, yet reading all these posts you would think Scotland, Wales,and Ireland dont exist ,cos the one word i keep seeing is English and England and "this country" which prob means England (actually more than one word)

United Kingdom... last i heard


Fek, ...i dont believe it ...a coincidence or what....Channel 4, tomorrow night (Mon) at 10pm ... " This Is England " ...... ....for anyone thats not seen it, its not exactly Autumnwatch

Dean O wrote:

Beamish wrote:Well said Alan, I think that post is a good one to wrap up this thread. admin

Oh I see, silly me.
and there was I thinking we were having a reasoned debate. I thought rants were the exclusive domain of the BNP . . . .

I thought it had reached a point that would avoid any e -anger or members getting anti. You can fill your boots as far as I am concerned, we all have our own views on the subject that are usually decided by our personal experiences. Not sure I want to get into that and I certainly dont want to express my views due to being a serving member of the armed forces and someone may think its ok to POST THE FOOKIN EVIDENCE NEXT TO MY NAME AND ADDRESS !
If you have spent 10 yrs being bullied by ****** gangs you may hate the *****, if you have fought in a war aginst the ***** you may hate the *****. Lots of circumstances lots of chance for personal hatred. I think the Irish may understand racial hatred better than most.

See Graeme thats why I thought this post could be locked to avoid me writing sh1t* like this! The Baby P post was a completely different animal in my opinion.

sorry! was quite late and quite drunk while i wrote that, sorry deano, racism is very close to my heart!

Jim...erm do you listen to radio one? its mostly white middle class emo bands hence why they started one extra, and if you actually listen to it, its ethnic urban music, not just "black" music as you say. you'll find the demographic of inner urban circles are very multicultured, hence the need for a very broad radio station....to say that it has anything remotely to do with this subject is a bit far fetched i think?!?

tim...ill go grab ya some jack boots then hehe!

I read the apology then had to scroll back to find why it was posted
its all very well apologising for saying something, but it doesn't erase the thoughts or feelings that necessitated it. and you can't help what yer thinking or feeling, no one can - which is one reason why legislation can't eradicate racism.

anyway, if I considered myself racist I would say so without fear, shame or remorse - I speak my mind and care not a jot how I'm perceived by anyone beyond my immediate family. I ain't a racist.

idiot? well I could refute that with a "concise AND long" reply but somehow I don't feel the need

alan wrote:Deano you have misread my point or i didnt make it clear my point was they dont get on as a community and most dont socialise with each other Your qoute is a different story ie terrorism and as i said before terrorist's come in ALL skin colours .

didn't misread it alan. as I see it, the issue is about one side defending traditional British values, customs & heritage vs those trying to change it to suit their own culture. at one extreme there's the BNP and at the other there's the Islamic extremists, with grey areas in between and the rest of the population sympathising to varying degrees with one side or the other. Few people if any, will be completely neutral.

here's an example http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 749183.ece

and even Trevor Phillips doesn't think this is a good idea!

can never work out that qoute bit tried loads of times anyway as JB has said we could go on forever you have your views i have mine i guess thats why its called a debate but were going round and round in circles maybe we should meet at the beggining again and just have a big fight