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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:35 pm
by MacV2
mattycoops43 wrote:
You ARE missing the important fact that they look gash though, this is why I won't use them.

Shhhh!
Don't say that Chric will want some...

Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:32 pm
by gl_s_r
mattycoops43 wrote:gl_s_r wrote:8541Hawk wrote:I would still like to see a failed Al stem or at least a link to one.
The way I see it, first you need to figure out the tensile of the Al alloy used and the the weight of the small tube sticking out.
Then with that info you could figure out how fast the wheel would have to spin in order to cause deflection of the tube.
I would guess the RPM needed to cause the tube to bend would be higher than this bike is capable of producing.
I also find it a bit odd that the aftermarket wheel manufactures don't know about the dangers of 90* stems..... I mean why would Marchesini put 90* stems in their ad photos?
http://www.marchesiniwheels.com/en/whee ... enesi.aspx
They also sell them directly:
http://www.marchesiniwheels.com/en/whee ... ORIES.aspx
BST, the same thing....90* stems
I could go on but I just leave it at that, Until I actually see a 90* valve that has failed due to it flexing itself apart, I just can't believe it.
Plus the fact I have run them for years on my bike ( and yes it has reached its terminal velocity or around 160MPH during that time) with no issues what so ever.
Then I would say around 80% or more of the club racers in the Bay Area also run them and I have never seen one fail.
I've had them on my bike for a good while and they seem fine... I also make them at work for various race teams and even my own team mount them at ninety degrees to the rim so I didn't take a lot of notice when I read about it either. I know I'll be keeping mine as it makes it a lot easier to check pressures.
You ARE missing the important fact that they look gash though, this is why I won't use them.

Unfortunately, like Seb, found it's just too much of a mission to check pressures and pump things up when you have sensible sized discs so got to live with the gash to make life a little easier at the moment... probably make myself some prettier one's in the summer.
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:12 pm
by agentpineapple
ermmmm if you do make some non gash ones, don't forgot me.....
I will consider myself a prototype mule....

Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:00 pm
by Jamoi
I love a bit of rubber and gash
Just taken delivery of my Spa reservoir straps - cheers for the recommendation Kev.
Now to fit them and do away with the cable ties and innertubes!
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:07 pm
by Virt
Jamoi wrote:I love a bit of rubber and gash

Soo... posh fiddler and porn?
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:09 pm
by VTRDark
I will consider myself a prototype mule....

Pimping yourself out now
Just taken delivery of my Spa reservoir strap

what?
(:-})
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:15 pm
by Jamoi
cybercarl wrote:
Just taken delivery of my Spa reservoir strap

what?
(:-})
Kev recommended SPA design for the straps and rubbers for the Penske shock resevoir

Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:37 pm
by VTRDark
Got ya
(:-})
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:46 pm
by Pete.L
8541Hawk wrote:I would still like to see a failed Al stem or at least a link to one.
The way I see it, first you need to figure out the tensile of the Al alloy used and the the weight of the small tube sticking out.
Then with that info you could figure out how fast the wheel would have to spin in order to cause deflection of the tube.
I would guess the RPM needed to cause the tube to bend would be higher than this bike is capable of producing.
Sorry Hawk,
I should have got back to this thread sooner. I had no idea it would be so controversial
Firstly, there was a craze over here a little while ago to
add a 90 degree valve stem to the existing rubber stem. Then you would get some pillock put an oversize valve cap on the end of it, normally dice shaped or some glow-in-the-dark variety and
that was what a warning was published about .I've not heard any thing about replacing the whole stem with a metal one of any material. In fact, metal, whether it be steel, aluminium or phosphor bronze is normally the safety valve of choice.
I hope this clears things up and all those irritable formula which have been flying around you head will subside and you can let your calculator cool down.
Once again,
Humble apologies
Pete.l

Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:04 pm
by bigtwinthing
cybercarl wrote:Got ya
(:-})
any ideas what i can use for the WP one ( please don't say cable ties or Jubilee clips)

Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:59 pm
by Jamoi
These SPA design ones are universal dude, so you'll be fine with them.
Email:
R.Scott@spa-uk.co.uk
Choose from a cnc clamp:
Or as I did, x2 straps (essentially big jubilee's) with rubber blocks: £7

Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:00 pm
by Virt
bigtwinthing wrote:
any ideas what i can use for the WP one ( please don't say cable ties or Jubilee clips)

The only thing wrong with cable ties is I don't trust half of you wombles not to cut them and nick my sh1t

Other than that they're fine

Re: what have you done to your
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:58 pm
by agentpineapple
Jamoi wrote:These SPA design ones are universal dude, so you'll be fine with them.
Email:
R.Scott@spa-uk.co.uk
Choose from a cnc clamp:
Or as I did, x2 straps (essentially big jubilee's) with rubber blocks: £7

So these will work with an ohlins reservoir.....?
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:06 pm
by Jamoi
Can't see why not dude, i'll post the circumference of the reservoir tomorrow.
Re: what have you done to your
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:21 pm
by Watty
Jamoi wrote:cybercarl wrote:
Just taken delivery of my Spa reservoir strap

what?
(:-})
Kev recommended SPA design for the straps and rubbers for the Penske shock resevoir

Pic please when fitted as I'll need some too.
