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Conclusive proof that red is the fastest colour

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:33 pm
by warby221
Proof that reds the fastest colour

Laws of physics

When an object is travailing at speed towards you there is an effect called Doppler Effect colour shift this states that as an object travels towards you it looks bluer as it travels away from you it looks redder

So as you see a bike in your mirrors it will shift to a bluer colour. As It passes and laves you behind it will look redder there fore red is the fastest colour

You can’t argue with physics
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:39 pm
by Beamish
Sounds fair to me :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:48 pm
by clayderman
So blue has got to be the fastest colour then, otherwise it wouldn't be able to catch up in the first place :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:51 pm
by warby221
arrrrrr but it isn't faster till its past you then its red
i'll have to see if any one can work out the flaw in my argument

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:55 pm
by Stormin Ben
warby221 wrote:arrrrrr but it isn't faster till its past you then its red
i'll have to see if any one can work out the flaw in my argument
You mean other than the one where red has the shorter wavelength so its actually the red bike behind you and the blue one in front?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:13 pm
by warby221
Red is in the lower end of the visible spectrum and has a longer wave length then blue
Think of a bike travelling towards you and the sound it makes then as it passes you and travels away the note you hear drops that’s Doppler Effect the sound wave is compressed as it travels towards you and is stretched out as it travels away from you. You only hear the true sound of the bike when it’s right along side you

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:50 am
by storminateacup
Yeah what Timbo said and double it :evil:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:14 am
by lee67
only one way to sort this out.....a storm sprinting day at elvington /pod etc... :wink: oh and teal would whip ass 8)

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:15 pm
by Pete.L
Hmm! :?
Should we really be talking about Gay colours and whipping A$$ in the same post???
Maybe we should lock this post down and start talking more manly Stuff :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Pete.l

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:15 pm
by Squiffythewombat
can i point out some science here...seems like a few people are rather muddled....

the Doppler effect is the bending of a wave from its source relative to the position that its viewed from or around an object. It is not just the wavelength that is altered but also the amplitude, frequency and a million other factors.

Due to pressure and the nature of the environment your viewing the colour in (in this case, earth, thus gravity is a major player) the spectrum does not change but shifts. Thus it will not change colour, simply hue as the spectrum shifts left of right thus altering the RGB content our eyes receive.

Normally the Doppler effect is used in conjunction with sound waves and not light waves due to the speed of light making most Doppler changes invisible to the naked eye. Sound waves however are much more noticeable.

EG: your exhaust note will change pitch depending on what direction the noise is coming from. Whilst this happens with lightwaves the effects are, for most part, unseen!

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:04 pm
by storminateacup
Squiffythewombat wrote:can i point out some science here...seems like a few people are rather muddled....

the Doppler effect is the bending of a wave from its source relative to the position that its viewed from or around an object. It is not just the wavelength that is altered but also the amplitude, frequency and a million other factors.

Due to pressure and the nature of the environment your viewing the colour in (in this case, earth, thus gravity is a major player) the spectrum does not change but shifts. Thus it will not change colour, simply hue as the spectrum shifts left of right thus altering the RGB content our eyes receive.

Normally the Doppler effect is used in conjunction with sound waves and not light waves due to the speed of light making most Doppler changes invisible to the naked eye. Sound waves however are much more noticeable.

EG: your exhaust note will change pitch depending on what direction the noise is coming from. Whilst this happens with lightwaves the effects are, for most part, unseen!
Yeah that's just what Timbo and I said Black is fastest. :wink:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:41 pm
by Kitch
Seeing as you appear to be using Snell's Law to validate your flawed belief that red is fastest.

It would be, but only if you're riding through glass or underwater.

Consequently, in order to determine which colour is fastest, we must account for several things.

The amount and wavelength of light absorbed produces the remaining reflected visible colour. This shows black is slowest as it absorbs the whole spectrum leading to becoming heavier and thus slower. Red, Yellow, Blue absorb all but one wavelength so are also very heavy. Being bombarded by 300,000,000 meters per second of light and absorbing all that energy leads to slowness. A highly reflective colour is more slippery and reflects the harmful slowing light.

Thermodynamics also play a part. With black absorbing the most heat the fastest, it expands due to heat quicker than anything else, so presents a larger area and is slower due to drag. Riders of primary colours negate the advantage they have by spouting hot air and wearing drag.

We can show this mathematically using the magic number: 3.14159265

Rider + Pie = slower. Black, Red, Blue and Yellow riders are known to be genetically predisposed to be tubby munchers.

This conclusively prove that the fastest colour is in fact Silver.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:24 pm
by genisis
that must mean yellow is the fastest as you didn't see it in the 1st place :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:56 pm
by Stormin Ben
Fastest plane in the world?
SR-71

Colour of fastest plane in the world?
Black

Some of the slowest planes ever?
Fokker triplane - red
Wright brothers flyer - yellow
Fairey Swordfish - silver

Nuff said??

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:54 am
by Kitch
Timbo wrote:The X-43A, part of NASA's Hypersonic or Hyper-X program, is designed to fly to speeds up to Mach 10, making it the fastest, non-rocket, air-breathing powered plane in the world. The SR71 is the fastest measured New York to London.

But by pure coincidence, both are BLACK 8) 8)
Stormin Ben wrote:Fastest plane in the world?
SR-71

Colour of fastest plane in the world?
Black
So? whats that got to do with the price of fish?

Its well known that the SR71 is black purely because of the colours thermal properties and if it were silver, it would be faster but wouldn't be as heat stable. Cruising at Mach 3.2 generates a wee bit of warm.

Silver is also fastest as its the lightest. The millionths of a microgram weigth saving makes all the difference. Anodizing things silver can even make previously slow stuff fast, according to Demon Tweeks.

The extra paint thickness required to make Black, Red, Blue and Yellow according to a bloke in the pub (which is therefore undeniable scientific proof) is worth a whole second on a quarter mile run.