Chinese brake disks

Miztaziggy · Post by **Miztaziggy** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:07 pm

Does anyone have any thoughts about whether or not they should put their faith in brake disks from e-bay if they look like they come from China?

Are they likely to fall apart when I need them most?

vtwin · Post by **vtwin** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:45 pm

You get what you pay for, personaly I stick to EBC / original, but of course its up to you

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:14 pm

there was someone who joined 6 months [or more] ago who offered to get EBC discs trade, that would make them the lowest cost option.

I went for Armstrong discs which were cheeper than Galfer, but about the same as EBC

these links were all the options I was looking at

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/parts/part_24752/
http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcy ... prod/49448
http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcy ... prod/13666
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Applicati ... 9452-394-C
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Honda/VTR_1 ... RAKE_DISCS
http://www.vyxxn.co.uk/catalog/alien-wa ... b06c243cbb
http://www.bikebitzuk.co.uk/honda-vtr-1 ... -4518.html
http://www.jaws-motorcycles.co.uk/vtr.htm

MJONESY · Post by **MJONESY** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:23 pm

I had a Chinese chain on my vtr, it snapped i was lucky that the damage was minimal so personally i wouldn't trust cheap chinese rubbish for my drive so wouldn't even consider it for my brakes.

MacV2 · Post by **MacV2** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:31 pm

I work in Pest Control & have in my time visited quite a few Chinese restaurants.

If you could see some of the horrors I have seen in their kitchens & stock rooms, then you, like me would never touch ANYTHING made by the Chinese again!

Ilson Lad · Post by **Ilson Lad** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:33 pm

A Chinese winch I have fitted to my Jeep packed in this week

Chinese isn't the flavour of the month at the moment

Bearcat · Post by **Bearcat** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:50 pm

I have the same questions as the original post to be honest.

The trouble is there are a lot of opinions about them, but very little evidence. A lot of guys say they are rubish, but they haven't used (or know anyone who has) them. iPods are made in China and they work well!

It all depends on the spec and quality control. I've heard good things about the manufacturer Kagizume, but no hard and fast evidence.

hope this helps.

mattster · Post by **mattster** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:03 pm

Bearcat wrote: I've heard good things about the manufacturer Kagizume, but no hard and fast evidence.

My bike failed it's mot in January due to fluctuations on the front discs. Bought new discs from Sandy Bike Spares - Kagizume - got them fitted, retested but they were worse than the original ones. SBS replaced 'em straight away - next set were still slightly warped, but much much better than the originals. Can't feel anything through the lever and the braking power is just as good as it ever was, so they passed the mot fine!

Since then, my bike has only done about a thousand miles, and they are already beginning to get a bit rusty round the bobbins.

I suppose you get what you pay for - just make sure you buy them from a reputable UK seller (such as SBS http://www.sandybikespares.co.uk/ ) as you'll have a much easier time should anything go wrong.

If I manage to get out and use the bike properly before winter, I'll make a concerted effort to see how they are performing and report back!

franz125 · Post by **franz125** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:21 am

I have Kagizume`s on front with GSXR-K3 6-pot calipers and Carbon Lorraine pads about two years.They work just fine,better then OEM brakes.No wears.

Miztaziggy · Post by **Miztaziggy** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:53 pm

My guess is that this

http://www.usitc.gov/publications/701_731/pub4009.pdf

Is probably all you will ever need to know about chinese brake discs

tony.mon · Post by **tony.mon** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:19 pm

So I read this, and basically it seems to be an old (1991-1995) report based on the threat to American premium-priced products from "cheap" imported replacement rotors.
It also addresses the market moving away from refinishing of rotors towards replacement ones.
Primarily, it deals with car products.

It says, in summary, that "premium" priced US made brake rotors are in danger of being priced out of the market by imported, cheaper but also cheaper quality products.

(But best of all, the map projection logo at the top looks like two fat ladies bending over facing away from you).

All I waned to know was about coefficients of expansion, grip and drag, initial bite and a comparison of stopping distances.
Never mind, perhaps next time.

Miztaziggy · Post by **Miztaziggy** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:23 pm

Yeah most of it is useless, but it does say that the Chinese discs are made from sub standard materials.

tony.mon · Post by **tony.mon** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:33 pm

Possibly, but subs can withstand many atmospheres of pressure before they fail.....

Anyway, it's only brakes, the last resort of those who can't change down quick enough

Wicky · Post by **Wicky** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:47 pm

Avoid Wong Kei disks....

Post by **Jazzscot** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:04 pm

also look out for Wang Kei ones too

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