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Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:03 pm
by Jazzscot
Copied from another forum.

The guy wanted as many people as possible to hear his story.

Jazz



Hastings Direct

Having finally decided to settle and put this whole sorry episode behind me, I feel I am now fully justified in telling everyone who is interested, just how contemptuously Hastings Direct have recently treated me, I am not suggesting Hastings Direct treat all of their customers like this, however, I find it a bit hard to imagine they just thought this up for my case alone..
Allow me to explain.
I was involved in a RTA in March 2011, where I lost control of my bike, at low speed, while approaching temporary lights, resulting in me being thrown into the oncoming traffic and impacting a Luton van and sustaining a list of horrific impact injuries. At this point in time the suspected cause of the accident was road surface contamination.
Unfortunately, I had insured through Hastings Direct.
First, I arrive home after 8 weeks in hospital (5 of which in a coma) to letters from Hastings Direct threatening legal action for my not responding, despite the fact that they had been informed I was in a critical, comatose condition and could be for some time!

But of course, Hastings Direct will only deal with the policy holder, so what information they had been given, was apparently discarded or ignored.

Once the police had closed their investigation and released the bike, Hastings Direct, then authorised a third party to remove my bike from the police storage facility - without my consent - obviously authorising this third party to treat my bike with total disregard, by 'slamming' it down side first, causing yet more damage and transporting it across Scotland, laid on it's side consolidating the destruction.

Please bear in mind at this point, I have still not lodged a claim with Hastings Direct and as such the bike is still mine!

Why didn't I raise a claim? You may ask, well, the answer is simple, after speaking to the attendant police officers and having them describe 'cosmetic damage' and realising that I had my luggage system on board, I decided I wanted to view the bike for myself and have the opportunity to remove my luggage system and it's contents (fortunately for Hastings Direct , the contents amount to a set of waterproofs, a luggage net and a small tool kit - hardly worth mentioning, however, they were still my property).

I then receive a letter from Hastings Direct, stating they have assessed the bike as a write-off, containing an insulting offer of settlement and requesting that I send them my V5, MoT etc.

Important note here – I still haven’t raised a claim!

So, I duly wrote them a letter expressing my concerns and the fact that, I had a luggage system that was not insured and I would like to view the bike myself BEFORE raising a claim.
This was totally ignored by Hastings Direct, who responded by saying that if I did not respond within 21 days they would consider the matter closed.

Then, Hastings Direct took it upon themselves to make my decisions for me. By selling my bike!

So I wrote a letter of complaint to Hastings Direct about my treatment thus far and I also informed them that all correspondence would be via the Royal Mail, that way I would have to pay their grossly inflated 0845 call charges (and I had a note of all correspondence from them).

I then received a letter from Hastings Direct stating that .. “In some cases apologies no matter how sincere are not enough and the only meaningful gift they have to offer me is financial”

Then they follow that up with yet another derisory offer.

At this point sheer desperation leads me to write a lengthy email to them and at the same time bring a solicitor in to aid me. She also expressed her outrage at they way Hastings Direct have treated me and my case so far.

Hastings Direct in coming to form a meaningful financial offer, send me photographs of the bike, after it had been stood out in a yard for at least two months, and then the third party had attempted to reduce it to iron filings and ask me to justify the damage and condition?!

Oh, and of course Hastings Direct made no mention of the luggage system that they had taken and sold without consent.

I then discover from my solicitor, that the 'meaningful gift' is actually the market value of the bike (which I believed was the risk I had paid them to take in the first place, via the policy) minus a host of arbitrary deductions, which turned out to be little more than the original derisory offer made to me, after the bike was illegally sold.
Also Hastings Direct asked me to justify the stolen luggage.
Bearing in mind, I have still not lodged a claim, can you now see where my abject disgust comes from, having to deal with insurers who act with seemingly “criminal” abandon, as well as having to recover from near fatal injuries.
So after a bit of to and fro, between Hastings Direct and my solicitor, Hastings Direct finally up the Meaningful Financial Gift and offer me the market value of the bike and a little bit more for the luggage, which they quite rightly stated wasn’t insured, which was why I never raised a claim in the first place, however, they deducted their excess and a few arbitrary deductions and we get back to the basic market value of the bike – Now what I can’t understand here is, how can they deduct excess when I still even to this very day, have not raised a claim! – we were seeking return of the vehicle or suitable compensation, obviously Hastings Direct retain ‘excess’ from compensation payouts as well.

Ultimately I was advised to settle for this insult as to take it to court, would end up costing more than I would stand to gain by winning the case.

So even when Hastings Direct acted in my opinion illegally and would lose in court, they could still win, how bizarre!

Well, this is all behind me now, so why did I write this? Well in my email to Hastings Direct, I promised that I would write a narrative of the shameful and contemptuous way Hastings Direct have treated me and publish it as widely as possible, so here I am keeping to my word.

Oh and just as a final footnote, to add to injury and insult, Hastings Direct blatantly lied to me! I received a closing letter from one of their complaints operatives, stating that Hastings Direct and the third party both offered to have the luggage system and rack removed and returned to me.They never did and still haven’t.

As I was in a severe state of disability, I was trying to work out a way to get across Scotland and remove this kit for myself, so I would have jumped at this opportunity, had it been offered.

Clearly from this you can see I will never even consider Hastings Direct again but I leave you, the reader, to come to your own conclusions. The saddest aspect of this is that in a few weeks this narrative will be all but forgotten but Hastings Direct will, most likely, still be putting profits over customer service and treating cases like this with utter contempt.



Please feel free to cut and paste this into any motoring based forums or chat rooms, to give people a little bit of information, so they can make a more informed choice before renewing any insurance.

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:40 pm
by Kev L
Outrageous. I thought Highway robbery had been eradicated years ago. These insurance companies really do think they can do whatever they want. Bast**ds. :twisted:

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:09 pm
by Stratman
But there is no way of knowing if this is genuine though, do we?

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:05 pm
by Jazzscot
Na its Genuine. The guy is on the Scottish bikers forum and he was in a bad way when it happened. I think its disgusting that a company can behave in that manner.

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:41 pm
by Stratman
Jazzscot wrote:Na its Genuine. The guy is on the Scottish bikers forum and he was in a bad way when it happened. I think its disgusting that a company can behave in that manner.
It's totally reprehensible if it is genuine. Are Hastings Direct still going then?

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:43 pm
by tony.mon
Company called "Hastings" and then customers expect to get a payout without a battle?

The clue's in the name.


I insure with Rollover & Givin.


(They used to trade as Grinn, Berritt & Gofritt, but went broke).

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:55 pm
by Jester666
tony.mon wrote:I insure with Rollover & Givin.


(They used to trade as Grinn, Berritt & Gofritt, but went broke).
Didn't they also used to be called Bodgeit & Scarper? lol

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:56 pm
by Steve97
On the subject of insurance....

can someone tell me why do we have to renew it every year?, i mean if you dont claim, have a prang or what ever, why do you have to "buy" it again?, why cant you just pay once and thats it, untill a claim is raised and then it is reassed, and why does my premium go up due to someone elses behaviour such as the idiot teenage moron who drives like a tw@, what does he, have to do with me ? :Argue 1:

I can totally believe the above

Steve

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:56 am
by benny hedges
Kev L wrote: These insurance companies really do think they can do whatever they want. Bast**ds. :twisted:
not for long m8... their conduct & business practices including price fixing is now under investigation from the govt ( wastes more taxpayers money and changes nothing...)

insurance is a scam. sort of like me going in shops saying you pay me £500 a week i'll make sure you dont get robbed and sh1t kicked outer you... you dont pay me 500 a week i make sure you definately get robbed and sh1t kisked outer you.
whats the difference?
apart from with good old honest protection scams, you pay your money and it works - you dont get robbed or battered.
you pay insurance cos you have to by law... yet when you make a claim they actually employ people to find ways of avoiding paying out.
and even if they do pay out they expect you to pay part of it, then charge you more next year.

it wants sorting asap, insurance in this country is like no other in the world & its time they were brought to book.

people complain about the blame & claim solicitors these days and the fact its pushing up insurance prices, but in reality they have made it that way themselves... it is a simple fact that you have got absolutely zero chance of getting a penny out of any insurance company unless you take them to court (to get back what you are supposedly covered for in the first place)

the reason the bills are so high is because they drag it out so long and argue the toss on every possible loophole to try & get out of paying.

if just one insurance company just said ok, youve had a bump, no need to take it to court... rear end shunt, no passengers, we'll repair the damage, theres a grand compy for the other driver & have a nice day - firstly you'd have a heart attack in shock, but i can guarantee that insurance company woud suddenly get a lot more customers and virtually shut down the competition.

regarding hastings direct.... another grievance from myself....
i took out a reasonably priced policy from them earlier this year.... it worked out about £20 deposit then £8 odd per mth.
so last month i rang them to ask why they had started taking £18 a month and had done for several months...
i am still waiting for an answer.
needless to say i have cancelled the direct debit so they cant take any more random sums from my account.
i only noticed this had been happening cos i was skint one month and left just enough money in to cover any dd's then noticed i had gone overdrawn & had been hit with bank charges.... turns out it was hastings helping themselves to another tenner a month that caused me to go over.
doesnt sound a lot but it more than doubles the cost of the policy, without any letter or fonecall from them explaining why they have changed the payments.

no doubt the fact that i have ceased the payments by cancelling the direct debit, they will cancell the policy, which is fine as the bike is now sorned, but when you consider that i have already paid more than 3mths extra with the extra £10s they have taken, the policy should be paid in full.
add to that the fact that you have to declare if you have ever had a policy cancelled or been declined cover.....

absolute fiddler - dont be tempted by their seemingly low quotes...... avoid them like the plague! :Ball Kick:

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:02 pm
by Steve97
Well said Benny

But at the end of the day, if people keep paying them, they will keep doing it, every time i renew i keep being asked "do you take a pillion" and i keep asking why ? a pillion is a third party so should be covered regardless,
If i remember right (its a long time ago !) when i was stationed in Germany its the veh thats insured for a person to drive not the person thats insured to drive the vehicle, lot eaisier, less complicated, lot cheaper, and i think every thing is their eqiv of fully comp, you cant buy anything else, another industry where money is involved that encourages greed, and we sit and whinge and take it, rant over

Steve

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:04 pm
by pariah
Ahhh good old Great Britain. Baffles me as to why any one wants to come and live here if they all knew :Ball Kick: the truth of how were treated.

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:12 pm
by benny hedges
Steve97 wrote:Well said Benny

But at the end of the day, if people keep paying them, they will keep doing it, every time i renew i keep being asked "do you take a pillion" and i keep asking why ? a pillion is a third party so should be covered regardless,
thing is, we have no choice as its a legal requirement, so in effect its a government endorsed protection scam.

& yeh, pillion cover.... when you take out car insurance, do they ask if you intend to take passengers?
mother in law in the back seat?
carry bicycles on the roof?
carry a child in a loosely fitting polystyrene booster seat?

surely they should, cos obviously a car with a solo driver is going to involve less £ in a claim than a car full of passengers...

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:01 pm
by pinkyfloyd
I read this on another forum too and will not go near Hastings as a result. Thats the insurance company and not the town. The town is lovely. Right on the beach, etc.

As for insurance I believe we take the insurance policy out at the start of the year just in case we have an accident during the year. I think that if you do not have an accident then you should get a refund of your policy costs less costs. Afterall, you pay road tax and if you sell the bike/car before its expired you can have a refund. You pay working tax and if you pay too much you get a refund also. Why do you not get a refund with insurance?

Here mr Pinky, you paid £100 last year for your insurance, you never made a claim, heres £75 back from us. We've taken a £25 admin fee for paperwork and policy details etc.

Wouldnt that be a nice thing?

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:19 pm
by Stratman
pinkyfloyd wrote:IHere mr Pinky, you paid £100 last year for your insurance, you never made a claim, heres £75 back from us. We've taken a £25 admin fee for paperwork and policy details etc.

Wouldnt that be a nice thing?
And they pay the £1,000,000 Personal Injury claim from where exactly?

Re: Hastings Direct (a genuine grievance)

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:21 am
by pinkyfloyd
I didnt say it was practical, I just said it would be nice. :lol: