anyone try a 190/55 rear tire?

mik_str · Post by **mik_str** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:08 pm

The new ZX-10 comes equipped with a 190/55 rear tire. Based on the fact that many have tried a 190/50 rear with mixed results (the negatives being traced back to the lower profile), I was wondering if anyone has tried this new higher profile rear, and if so what were the results?

cheers
Mikstr

Stormin Ben · Post by **Stormin Ben** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:14 pm

190 tyre is designed to fit on a 6" rim
If you squeeze it on a smaller rim the profile goes all to rock

I can't see it putting any more rubber on the road than a standard tyre
However, it would look good so for some thats justification enough

Skatrekker · Post by **Skatrekker** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:18 pm

Expensive if it doesn't improve things, why bother, all it will do at best is give you bigger chicken strips for people to mock. The fact that you are forcing the tyre onto a relatively narrow rim means that the profile will be different to that it was designed to have. Unless you have several years experience in motorcyle tyre research and development I'd leave things well alone or accept that you might have found a way to make a bike less stable.

A track day or a riding course will make probably make you faster round corners.

Squiffythewombat · Post by **Squiffythewombat** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:52 pm

Skatrekker wrote: it will do at best is give you bigger chicken strips for people to mock.

Exacatly! INMO...same as steering dampers...

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:04 pm

If you wanted a 190 rear, wouldn't the best way be to mod on an SP2 rear end? Wouldn't be easy.

Also, the later model Hornets had big fat 190/50's on and got panned for crappy handling.

mik_str · Post by **mik_str** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:03 pm

alrightee then! next topic, lol

thanks guys

By the way, I was not trying to infer that it would make me a quicker rider; I have been riding long enough (28 years) to know that the limiting factor with most modern bikes is the rider and not the machinery. I was merely throwing the idea out for discussion, and discuss you did!

cheers

Mikstr

Tinter · Post by **Tinter** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:04 pm

Exacatly! INMO...same as steering dampers...[/quote]

Hows that then? Sorry to hijack thread but im not 100% clued up on steering dampers mine has one but my chicken strips are less than 5mm how do they stop you leaning in then

Paddockstand Ltd · Post by **Paddockstand Ltd** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:22 pm

Tyres are a funny old thing!

If you want to turn in quicker and zip round corners faster etc stick with the 180. If you the knee down brigade and my back tyre is bigger than yours ...

Stormin Ben · Post by **Stormin Ben** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:41 am

Tinter wrote:
Exacatly! INMO...same as steering dampers...
Hows that then? Sorry to hijack thread but im not 100% clued up on steering dampers mine has one but my chicken strips are less than 5mm how do they stop you leaning in then

They don't stop you leaning (although they can affect the speed you can tip in) but I think the point the Squiffy Wombat was trying to make was that a steering damper on the Storm is totally not required.
If you find you need one then its just gonna mask a problem, not solve it. You're better off addressing the cause (eg get the forks/ shock/ suspension linkages/ tyres sorted instead

slim_boy_fat · Post by **slim_boy_fat** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:07 am

Stormin Ben wrote:
Tinter wrote:
Exacatly! INMO...same as steering dampers...
Hows that then? Sorry to hijack thread but im not 100% clued up on steering dampers mine has one but my chicken strips are less than 5mm how do they stop you leaning in then
They don't stop you leaning (although they can affect the speed you can tip in) but I think the point the Squiffy Wombat was trying to make was that a steering damper on the Storm is totally not required.
If you find you need one then its just gonna mask a problem, not solve it. You're better off addressing the cause (eg get the forks/ shock/ suspension linkages/ tyres sorted instead

Not sure i agree, the storm is not notorious for shaking its head al la 2004 zx10r/ 1995 blade, but an bike can have a tank slapper momen given the righ curcumstances, a steering damper does not affect the way a bike is riden of turns. You only really ever notice it at very low speeds, and really who cares about the steering being a bit heavy in a car park at 10mph!!!

Just my 2p worth,

Slim, Firestorm owner with steering damper fitted.

Max · Post by **Max** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:25 am

You forgot to add some of them look nice too

Paddockstand Ltd · Post by **Paddockstand Ltd** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:24 am

But a steering damper takes away the feedback you get from the front. So you probably control a minor tank slapper if you learn when its coming as apposed to dealing with a major one when its to late

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