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Really O/T but can't help admiring the Party Trick

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:40 pm
by LotusSevenMan
Was checking out some stuff on Get Carter with Michael Caine (yep, the brilliant film only matched by The Long Good Friday) and found this about one of the actors, John Bindon, in the Telegraph.

Scroll down to see his Party Trick !!!!!!!!!! 8O 8O 8O


"Despite a recent slew of books about old-fashioned 1960s gangsters, there remains an appetite for the Good Old Days, when criminals wore flannel suits and took liberties with one another, rather than today, when they wear tracksuits and take liberties with us. Perhaps it is just another sigh of nostalgia for the 1960s, but violence did not seem so random then, and there is something rather cosy, nowadays, about reading of men who enjoyed consensual fighting for something other than money.

John Bindon was just such a man. He grew up in Fulham - then a rather more rugged borough than now - and from an early age showed a propensity for aggro. As is the case with most of these gangsters' stories, he came from a poor background, but was, under the circumstances, "very well brought up" by a loving mother.

This did not, however, stop him from stealing a bicycle as soon as he was old enough, and soon he was running a gang of urchins. One thing led to another and his misdemeanours became more serious. He beat up a coal deliveryman when he was 13 years old and soon his reputation as a hard man was assured. A life of crime awaited him, the highlight of which was his involvement in the robbery of a "cursed" emerald from a jeweller in Hatton Garden.

Two things set Bindon apart from your average petty criminal. The first, according to Bindon's many friends, and rather over-egged by his biographer, was his "outrageous" sense of humour. (Much of the evidence for this is of the "you had to be there" variety.)

But no doubt surrounds the other thing. It rears its head when he was only 14 and already spending time in boozers. After a few pints (how many is unknown), he would perform his favourite party trick, a routine used many time in pubs across the world over the next 40 years: "I'd hang five half-pint beer glasses on me manhood. Everyone would ask how it's done beforehand so I'd put them out of their misery and thread my old chap through the handles of the glasses." It is a fact, attested to by the many who saw it, that John Bindon had a large chipolata.

His terrific cheek and enormous chipolata, combined with the climate of the time - when the King's Road was the centre of the world - soon got him noticed beyond the fashionable pubs and clubs of west London. He started acting small parts (hee-hee) - always, to his chagrin, villains - in films that included Performance, and he had numerous affairs with models. Soon he found himself rubbing shoulders with high society, most especially Princess Margaret, with whom he was photographed on a Mustique beach wearing a T-shirt bearing the slogan "Enjoy Cocaine".

Quite what went on between Bindon and Princess Margaret on the island remains - sort of - a mystery. According to Wensley Clarkson, Bindon was "incredibly" discreet, of course, but one old flame "broke a 30-year silence" to reveal that Bindon had told her he had slept with the princess.

He remained fantastically secretive about what had happened on Mustique, but back in London he admitted to friends that "PM" sometimes sent a car to pick him up for "love trysts" at Kensington Palace. By the end of the book it emerges that, despite being leaned on by some "spooks" Bindon assumed were from MI5, he had told almost everyone he ever met about his royal fling.

Oddly this may have saved him some serious trouble later on in life. He mysteriously escaped jail on numerous occasions, most seriously when he found himself on trial for the murder of another villain in the improbably named Ranelagh Yacht Club. The actor Bob Hoskins, a personal friend, is credited with saving him from a life sentence by making the jury laugh, but Bindon was sure that the palace was behind it, even if, from Clarkson's plausibly confusing account of the incident, a murder conviction would have been harsh.

There is no doubt that Bindon had an enormous effect on the people he met. Sometimes this was unwelcome and unhealthy, but Clarkson has gathered together a sufficient weight of numbers prepared to testify to Bindon's plus points so that, despite the author's languid tabloid prose (sex, for example is always "steamy" and taken in "bouts") and his admirable indifference to the facts of the matter, John Bindon emerges as a true gent, if a ferociously violent one with an unsettling sense of humour".

I also found out about this incident in another website.
He got a gallantry medal from the Police for saving a guy from drowning in the Thames by diving off Putney Bridge. What he failed to mention was that he pushed the guy in to start with!!!

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:49 am
by sirch345
Yeah, good party trick that :!: Remind me of the guy on the nudist beach who goes for the ice-creams and doughnuts, as his hands were full with the ice-creams, you can probably guess how he carried the doughnuts :wink:

Times have definitely changed, I think one of the problem's today is the lack of respect, which as you've pointed out LSM that even criminal's had years ago :!: Well perhaps not all of them :!:

I remember my Father in law saying when he was a kid, (he was brought up in London) that they could have been having a fight with a few lads who had just nicked some packets of cigarette's which they wanted a free share in, if an old lady suddenly turned up and was trying to cross the road, they would stop fighting (may have even helped her across the road) and then continue when the lady was on her way :!: That definitely wouldn't happen today :!:

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:21 pm
by Squiffythewombat
the long good friday? you cant honestly actually rate that as good? :D

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:18 pm
by LotusSevenMan
Squiff.
Watch the very end where Harold Shand (Bob Hoskins) is being driven away to his death and see the really fantastic acting in closeup.
Nothing is said, but you can read his whole summing up of his life and current position and then acceptance of his inevitable murder can be seen in his face with its expressions. Brilliant!

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:35 am
by curly
Long Good Friday is a great film!!!
Did you know that Pierce Brosnan is in it?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:00 pm
by Squiffythewombat
LotusSevenMan wrote:Squiff.
Watch the very end where Harold Shand (Bob Hoskins) is being driven away to his death and see the really fantastic acting in closeup.
Nothing is said, but you can read his whole summing up of his life and current position and then acceptance of his inevitable murder can be seen in his face with its expressions. Brilliant!
Im not saying its bad, but you speak of it like a classic! The characterisation was plain at best! The storyline was muddled with pointless sub-text that never went anywhere! i could go on.....never ask a film student lol!

Its not even british so cant be compaired to such classics as get carter!

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:01 pm
by Max
Squiffythewombat wrote: Its not even british so cant be compaired to such classics as get carter!
Sylvester Stallone was reeeally great in that :P :P :P :P

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:35 pm
by Red
Have to agree that "The long Good friday" was a Classic British gangster flic. Yep the end was amazing! Think the problem these days is everyone wants to analyse a film to death. My son is terrible for it, he leaves no film unscathed.

I just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment! Here are some reviews for the film from a few sources.

"...[An] absorbing, fast-paced narrative....Some nicely observed performances..." (Variety)

"...THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY is a swift, sharp-edged gangster story in a classic mold....Surprising, suspenseful drama..." (New York Times)

"...The movie's IRA subplot makes it a juicy companion piece to John Boorman's great new Irish mob pic THE GENERAL..." (USA Today)

"...This still holds up as one of the few British gangster films with the same intensity and drive as the best Hollywood has to offer..." (Sight and Sound)

"Hoskins is pure fire. It's the signature performance in a criminally underappreciated career." -- Grade: A (Entertainment Weekly)

5 stars out of 5 -- "John MacKenzie's masterful thriller features a career-best performance from Bob Hoskins..." (Total Film)

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:32 pm
by Squiffythewombat
Max wrote:
Squiffythewombat wrote: Its not even british so cant be compaired to such classics as get carter!
Sylvester Stallone was reeeally great in that :P :P :P :P
that would be THE AMERICAN REMAKE! :P The original has michael caine in! dur!

And yes maybe we do over critise films these days chris but everyone is aloud their own opinion and its overly critical institutions that produce new directors like say Guy Richie (pretty good with the gansta thing, although he started life making music videos!)

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:55 pm
by Red
Squiffy you have got a good point. I just hate watchin a film only for someone bickering on in the background tellin me how crap that scene was in the film because the lighting was poor or the dialogue was bad (my son, bless him).
:lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:13 pm
by Max
Squiffythewombat wrote:
Max wrote:
Squiffythewombat wrote: Its not even british so cant be compaired to such classics as get carter!
Sylvester Stallone was reeeally great in that :P :P :P :P
that would be THE AMERICAN REMAKE! :P The original has michael caine in! dur!
I think you'll find they both have Mr Maurice Micklewhite in ........