Should i part ex?

[Growler]

My local dealer has a red 'W' 2000 year firestorm for sale. It's immaculate and has a bellypan, adj rearsets, new tyres, datatool alarm, rear hugger and seat hump.

Whereas mine is a 99 'S' and runs well but the body work could be better and it could do with the brakes being looked at. Ive been offered 850 for it, which leaves me 1600 to find.

What do i do? get this newer bike, which looks mint when clean, or wait another year and save a bit more dosh and get something newer. Being another Firestorm I maybe able to get past the wife by saying that i've had mine resprayed and she'd never know...........!!!!!!! Trouble is i think 1600 is a lot of money for a bike that is effectively 18 months newer albeit much tidier and with about 60% lower mileage.

Decisions, Decision, Decisions

Somebody please help

[simo]

Sounds alot to me matey. Paid £1450 for a W reg with 7500mls on last March so there's still bargins out there,may be put some money into yours.Better the devil you know

[Jbrebel]

£2450

[gilson]

I'd say No. Spend some money on your bike and it won't get anywhere near that much.

Brakes - 100GBP max, with bleed and new pads seals etc. (cleaning, bleeding and changing the pads is easy). Never done seals though but I doubt it's difficult.

A sh1t hot repsray would cost you 500notes if you are going the same colour especially.

Rear sets 150GBP (if you really want them).
Full service - 200GBP. you cold even budget in some dyno time with a dynojet kit for another 200GBP.

Go on, add a set of brand new tyres and have a fork overhaul for 300, and why not get a second hand Ohlins or Penske second hand shock for 400GBP.

It's a no brainer really.

[benny hedges]

£2450

you could pick up a half decent sp1 for that.
have a look at mcn bikemart, last time i looked there was loads of em for 2 1/2 - 3k

2500 for a storm> it'd have to be very low mileage 03+

[Growler]

I'd say No. Spend some money on your bike and it won't get anywhere near that much.

Brakes - 100GBP max, with bleed and new pads seals etc. (cleaning, bleeding and changing the pads is easy). Never done seals though but I doubt it's difficult.

A sh1t hot repsray would cost you 500notes if you are going the same colour especially.

Rear sets 150GBP (if you really want them).
Full service - 200GBP. you cold even budget in some dyno time with a dynojet kit for another 200GBP.

Go on, add a set of brand new tyres and have a fork overhaul for 300, and why not get a second hand Ohlins or Penske second hand shock for 400GBP.

It's a no brainer really.

I've had the brakes done but they are still really crap, hardly any bite and a lot a lever travel i've also fitted new pads, seals & braided lines could be that the discs are going . With 27k on the clock, i reckon i should get the CCT's changed and whilst there do the valve clearances, then upgrade the forks and shock, all in I reckon 1000GBP. Budget in the re-spray and your looking at 1500GBP

If i P/X my current one in a get a bike that's had all this done, plus has 12000 less miles and is 18months newer

Thats my predicament

[gilson]

I'd say No. Spend some money on your bike and it won't get anywhere near that much.

Brakes - 100GBP max, with bleed and new pads seals etc. (cleaning, bleeding and changing the pads is easy). Never done seals though but I doubt it's difficult.

A sh1t hot repsray would cost you 500notes if you are going the same colour especially.

Rear sets 150GBP (if you really want them).
Full service - 200GBP. you cold even budget in some dyno time with a dynojet kit for another 200GBP.

Go on, add a set of brand new tyres and have a fork overhaul for 300, and why not get a second hand Ohlins or Penske second hand shock for 400GBP.

It's a no brainer really.

I've had the brakes done but they are still really crap, hardly any bite and a lot a lever travel i've also fitted new pads, seals & braided lines could be that the discs are going . With 27k on the clock, i reckon i should get the CCT's changed and whilst there do the valve clearances, then upgrade the forks and shock, all in I reckon 1000GBP. Budget in the re-spray and your looking at 1500GBP

If i P/X my current one in a get a bike that's had all this done, plus has 12000 less miles and is 18months newer

Thats my predicament

PM Dave-SP2, he'll do all of that and hell of a lot more for a grand... hell, he might even

Sorry Dave, hee hee. But seriously, at least ask him to look at it. He's only local to you and I notice you are in Cambridgeshire.

I've got a ZX10 Radial MC if you want, and some proper brand new Ferodo pads (none of this EBC shite) , I've even got some discs too. If you need them, and ask to Dave to fit, you can have them at a good price. CCTs are 35GBP each, not too difficult to fit for a dude like Dave.

At least speak to the man (dave-sp2)before you part with good money....

[dave-sp2]

Hello there

looks like my name is being thrown around here again at the moment so better say my piece!!

if your gona upgrade the storm to a newer one then great, but it appears your not, so you have to ask yourself what you want, £2500 will get you a private sale on a SP1 which is no storm!! but as your doing a part ex your paying at least 30% over the top for the priveledge!!

I would supply an all under one roof service, for a very very reasonable price!!

Gilson will vouch for that, have a look on his website for some examples of my work or PM your e-mail address and i'll send you some, but i bet i can give you a better bike than the dealer for half the money!!!!

just another option and my 2p's worth

dave

[Growler]

Hello there

looks like my name is being thrown around here again at the moment so better say my piece!!

if your gona upgrade the storm to a newer one then great, but it appears your not, so you have to ask yourself what you want, £2500 will get you a private sale on a SP1 which is no storm!! but as your doing a part ex your paying at least 30% over the top for the priveledge!!

I would supply an all under one roof service, for a very very reasonable price!!

Gilson will vouch for that, have a look on his website for some examples of my work or PM your e-mail address and i'll send you some, but i bet i can give you a better bike than the dealer for half the money!!!!

just another option and my 2p's worth

dave

Hi Dave

I am interested in your offer.
I've had the bike for about 4 months now and took it to my local Suzuki dealer for a service. I'm going to take it back to them to check the brakes over as I'm not confident they will work during an emergency (sorry controlled) stop and as i've paid them once I expect them to do it FOC. I've fitted new pads, filters, changed the fluids and front master cylinder seals already.

Regarding the other stuff, these things need attention

Steering Bearing, (got through MOT in April but was noted)
CCT
Valve clearance checked
Front forks checked re-set if neccessary
Rear shock

I would like the plastic panels tidied up and repsrayed (the the left hand fairing suffered some damage from the previous owner) and while there off get into the engine and clean it thoroughly just so that when I spend a couple of hours cleaning the bike it actually looks better than before.

There are a few minor things to replace like the gear change lever got broken and the left hand bar needs a new inner weight (I have the end weight)

Cheers

[dave-sp2]

When you post a list of things your not happy with like that then i can see why you would be looking at another bike!!!

especially when the suspension and brakes are included as that can never be a confidence inspiring ride!!

if your not happy with the brakes and have already done all that work to them then there is either a problem else where that's pretty deep or you are expecting to much of them, in that position why don't you go for a full SP set up and get some wavey discs, the SP brakes are a good upgrade and the wavey discs look cool, you could probably do that for between £200-£250 in parts, discs, calipers, master cylinder, braided lines, new fluid. i think there are a set of calipers already listed on here.

if you have the owners manual reset the suspension yourself and try again. then you can decide what to do about that.

the resparay, one colour, £350, custom paint, fancy graphics, wheels etc are all extra but it depends what you want.

the engine work can be sorted also, get some manual CCT and then you'll save more head ache in the long run! do you really need more power???? just get it sounding right with some nice cans and you'll feel like it's going faster anyway!

I recon you can pretty much have a new bike for under a grand but that all depends on how good you are on ebay and how far you want to go!

laters

dave

[Growler]

Hi Dave

I'm not after more power. I only been riding a couple of months and the Firestorm is plenty quick enough. It's just my lack of confidence in this particular bike.

I have checked the brakes on other firestorms and notice thither is no lever travel before the pads bite. Thinking about this I reckon that there may be air in the hose.

The front forks seem to bottom out and are rock hard when you hit a pot hole, I'm guessing that some new oil and seals could solve that problem. Regarding the back end I find that the rear wants to slide out whenever there's a poor road surface now this maybe just the bikes characteristics and not having much experience I bave nothing to compare with.

How easy is it to fit CCT and I don't think I could do the valve clearances so I need to budget for that.

If I can get the bike to behave them I would then look to tidy her up and get a re-spray.

If possible and obviously dependant on cost I'd get an experienced mechanic to do these things for me however I would like to be involved as I'm keen to learn and I'm reasonably handy with tools

Cheers

[benny hedges]

thither is no lever travel before the pads bite.
Cheers

whence commeth thou to speaketh thus?

the bottoming out is easily sorted with some progressive springs and new oil, tensioners and valve clearances are relatively easy to do following the guides on here, but why do you think the clearances need adjusting?

i think you should try some hh pads that give a lot more feel and bite a lot more positively, perhaps fit some stainless hoses and new brake fluid.
unless you're riding like a maniac the brakes should be well up to the job imo.
i fitted different master cylinders on mine but the standard ones worked fine - not as good as more recent bikes like, but they stopped ok, just wouldn't pull stoppies lol

back end, i think you have the shock set too high - try it on the 2nd notch, and what tyres do you have ??
i wasnt happy with mine doing the same so i fitted maxxis m6029 £127 delivered from http://www.bitsforbikes.co.uk - transformed the handling

i think it's time to pester tony.mon for workshop day 3

[Growler]

thither is no lever travel before the pads bite.
Cheers

whence commeth thou to speaketh thus?

the bottoming out is easily sorted with some progressive springs and new oil, tensioners and valve clearances are relatively easy to do following the guides on here, but why do you think the clearances need adjusting?

i think you should try some hh pads that give a lot more feel and bite a lot more positively, perhaps fit some stainless hoses and new brake fluid.
unless you're riding like a maniac the brakes should be well up to the job imo.
i fitted different master cylinders on mine but the standard ones worked fine - not as good as more recent bikes like, but they stopped ok, just wouldn't pull stoppies lol

back end, i think you have the shock set too high - try it on the 2nd notch, and what tyres do you have ??
i wasnt happy with mine doing the same so i fitted maxxis m6029 £127 delivered from http://www.bitsforbikes.co.uk - transformed the handling

i think it's time to pester tony.mon for workshop day 3

Thou cometh from the sarf, where one speaks proper my good man....

I've got Pirelli Corsa's on the bike, regarding the braking, i've changed the fluid and the fronts have braided hoses i fitted aftermarket pads from david silver maybe they're not upto the job. Too be honest if i could get £900 for it i think i'd sell it and put the money to another one.

I really need some hands on training regarding the servicing as im bloody brilliant at taking things apart, just never can get them back in the right place.............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and being my first bike enthusiasm really is no excuse for experience if tony.mon is up for some workshop training then i'm up for it, ive even got a bike for him to demonstrate on lol

[dave-sp2]

Sounds like some confidence has gone missing!!!

but as i said sh1t tyres brakes and suspension will only make it worse,

put some details up of your bike if your intrested in selling it you never know your luck!! but i feel you might not be satisfied with the replacment storm as it might also have some issues and are you expecting to much from an old sports tourer!,

someone's been playing with your bike and it needs resetting to find out weather you need a fork/shock rebuild as there is no point in wasting money especially if it is set up wrong it might be worse when it comes back if it still not set up properly.

have a ride out mate and come and see me!!! will only take you about an hour!

dave

[Growler]

Sounds like some confidence has gone missing!!!

but as i said sh1t tyres brakes and suspension will only make it worse,

put some details up of your bike if your intrested in selling it you never know your luck!! but i feel you might not be satisfied with the replacment storm as it might also have some issues and are you expecting to much from an old sports tourer!,

someone's been playing with your bike and it needs resetting to find out weather you need a fork/shock rebuild as there is no point in wasting money especially if it is set up wrong it might be worse when it comes back if it still not set up properly.

have a ride out mate and come and see me!!! will only take you about an hour!

dave

Hi Dave

Yeah i'm up for that, i'm on my jollies next week not going anywhere so if you dont mind me popping along then i'd like a second opinion on my bike. can you pm me your address

Cheers