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Dirtyboydeadly
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Hi all

I came across this fourm looking for answers to my problems I currently have with my storm.

Its fair to say I found food for thought and when I'm next in my man cave I will be checking the info I found with what I have done.

Long story cut short. I serviced my storm after a mot fail and had a few items to sort out.

So I sorted all the issues I had bar changing the plugs.
I didnt have a socket that fitted so went to halfords and bought a wrench, got the front plug out and went for the back and it was just spinning.
I left it a few days to think about it and pulled the head to get the plug removed and new threads heli coiled.

Well the handle was bust on the wrench and the head was fine so new gaskets and buttoned it all up and using the heynes I timed it up.
Well its not run right since and is sone times runing on one sometimes on two but only for a minute before it dies.

Well i found info on timing and will hopefully show that i got my cams 180 out and that should fix it.

If not there will be a small fire :twisted: :twisted:

Dan
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Greetings!

Yup shame you didn't find this forum first as 'Haynes' is wrong. Hope you get it fixed now with the correct set-up with the minimum fuss and have many more carefree miles.

Post some pics of the dirty work for reference.
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hi dbd
you will find all the anwsers to vtr related questions on this forum and a bit of friendly banter/piss taking aswell.
let us know whereabouts you live because sometimes a friendly forum member could be just around the corner and could come and give you a hand, or just look over your shoulder tutting and shaking their head a lot....... :lol:
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Hello and welcome



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Hello mate, welcome along. :thumbup:
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Sorry to disappoint but running on just one, two sometimes isn't a timing 180 degrees out sort of symptom.

With 180 out it runs fine up to about 5,000, then gets wheezy and won't pull over 6,500.

If it's running on one, and sometimes the second you need to see which one's intermittent (by carefully checking ex pipe heat) and go from there.
Possibilities include:
kinked fuel lines,
vac line problems,
Duff plug (swap front for rear and see if the problem moves cylinders),
Possibly carb diaphragm/ pet tap diaphragm.

Or, of course, coils/leads/plug caps not on properly.

Good luck :thumbup:
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Thanks all for the warm welcome
My Storm has always been my trusty steed that I can rely on when everything else has thrown the towell in.
So I'm a bit miffed about the small f**k up i had.
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Looks more like step toes yard
You need a bigger man cave .
My friend has a large unit and you can't see the floor or wall once I got lost in there for a week .
He has 3 trike projects
A boat
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Every year we have a good clean out and put as much on eBay as we can
And what don't sell gets weighed in
Then the new year comes and he starts hoarding crap again
It's a never ending cycle
But we do make ££££ out of it :)


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Welcome to the forum DBD :thumbup: Your Storm looks good :thumbup:

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i love the trackday picture buddy, i bet you deck the engine casings out from time to time.... :thumbup:
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welcome to the club mate, like the old BMs and glad to see you are using them, even if not quite the touring image :) .

like Tony has said, the 180 is not going to cause the problems you state. sounds like fuel pipe trapped to one carb, or a problem with the ignition coil on the rear [as that is the one you have been fiddling with].
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I have checked the fuel lines and the spark more times then I care to remember. the only thing left since I buggered about with it is the 180 timing.
The blue bm is my touring bike I got hard luggage for it and done the classic isle of white rally on it this year and doing the dragon in feb, moto pistons in october and any other we come across.

I been to normandy on the storm and my brain broke after 8 hours with race pipes and ton up speeds.

The cafe racer bm does make you jump when the rocker covers hit the deck and 30 mins from the end of the track day i fell off after the rocker cover lifted the back wheel off the ground

ps are there pics of the cam timing on this site??
Dirtyboydeadly
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tony.mon wrote:Sorry to disappoint but running on just one, two sometimes isn't a timing 180 degrees out sort of symptom.

With 180 out it runs fine up to about 5,000, then gets wheezy and won't pull over 6,500.

If it's running on one, and sometimes the second you need to see which one's intermittent (by carefully checking ex pipe heat) and go from there.
Possibilities include:
kinked fuel lines,
vac line problems,
Duff plug (swap front for rear and see if the problem moves cylinders),
Possibly carb diaphragm/ pet tap diaphragm.

Or, of course, coils/leads/plug caps not on properly.

Good luck :thumbup:
Thinking back as I been buggering about with it for so long now
When i got it back together it would start and run and went like a stuck rat up to 6k but didnt sound right, it sounded like it was sucking back through the exhaust like a old british bike.
So i checked everything carbs off checked fuel, float hights and pipe work. I decided the exhause cam was one tooth out so moved it one tooth and pulled engine over with back wheel to make sure nothin hit the timing marks look correct in my eye, and now its not going very well at all.

So this weekend I'm going back over the timing as I found on here and once thats proved right, will go from there
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The important thing is to set the rear first, with cam lobes pointing towards each other and up, with the horizontal sprocket lines level with the head.
Then rotate the engine one and a quarter turns anticlockwise and line up the FT mark, THEN set the front pot.

NOTE:
This brief note is not a how to in its own right, but should be read with Sirch's full instructions on the Workshop sticky.
I just wanted to highlight that it's important to set one then the other cylinder a specific number of turns apart.

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Dirtyboydeadly
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Its the rear thats wrong :-(

So found that if i line the front up and turn engine 270deg then rear should be on compresion stroke.

Thanks for the help I'm not afraid of asking for help when i'm stuck, but i'm stuck now and will be trying again at the weekend :thumbup:
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