Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
- lloydie
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Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
Front 6s
Nc29 cbr400rr
Nc30 vfr400r
Nc35 rvf400
Cbr600f3
Front 3s
Firestorm
Nc23 triarm
Rear 6s
92-98 fireblade
front brake discs
CBR400 RRJ/RRK (NC23) TRI-ARM 1981-1989
CBR400 RRL/RRN/RRR (NC30) GULL-ARM 1990-1994
RVF400 RR/RR2/RT/RT2 (NC35) 1994-1996
VFR400 R3K/R3N/R3L/R3M NC30 1989-1992
CBR600F FS/FT/FV/FW 1995-1998
VFR750 FR/FS/FT/FV 1994-1997
CBR900RR FIREBLADE RRR/RRS/RRT/RRV 1994 - 1997
VTR1000F FIRESTORM 1997-2006
Nc29 cbr400rr
Nc30 vfr400r
Nc35 rvf400
Cbr600f3
Front 3s
Firestorm
Nc23 triarm
Rear 6s
92-98 fireblade
front brake discs
CBR400 RRJ/RRK (NC23) TRI-ARM 1981-1989
CBR400 RRL/RRN/RRR (NC30) GULL-ARM 1990-1994
RVF400 RR/RR2/RT/RT2 (NC35) 1994-1996
VFR400 R3K/R3N/R3L/R3M NC30 1989-1992
CBR600F FS/FT/FV/FW 1995-1998
VFR750 FR/FS/FT/FV 1994-1997
CBR900RR FIREBLADE RRR/RRS/RRT/RRV 1994 - 1997
VTR1000F FIRESTORM 1997-2006
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17
Maybe this should be a sticky
- lloydie
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Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17"
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The voices made me do it
- tankslappa
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
I'll throw in a little contribution if you don't mind...
When I wrecked my front wheel I had the devil's own job finding another, all the blade owners were buying up all the 17" VTR front wheels or something!
So I went and looked at a Blackbird front, guess what... Fits! The discs swap straight over. Just use the spacers and axle from the VTR. I measured and compared everything I could, and as far as I could tell it is the same casting.
Unfortunately I don't know the year of the Blackbird donor, it was just a collection of bits by the time I got to it.
I've grown to rather like my gloss black front wheel.
When I wrecked my front wheel I had the devil's own job finding another, all the blade owners were buying up all the 17" VTR front wheels or something!
So I went and looked at a Blackbird front, guess what... Fits! The discs swap straight over. Just use the spacers and axle from the VTR. I measured and compared everything I could, and as far as I could tell it is the same casting.
Unfortunately I don't know the year of the Blackbird donor, it was just a collection of bits by the time I got to it.
I've grown to rather like my gloss black front wheel.
Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
Is the B-Bird a 3 or 6 spoke?
Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat!
Silver 1998 'Storm! That keeps trying to kill me! And is leaving me soon!
Silver 1998 'Storm! That keeps trying to kill me! And is leaving me soon!

- lloydie
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Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
3 spokeJester666 wrote:Is the B-Bird a 3 or 6 spoke?
Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
I thought it was handy to know a front wheel from a Honda Blackbird will fit our Firestorms, so I've just had a quick look on the Ron Ayres site for cross reference checking part numbers.
As far as I can see there appears to be a difference in part numbers (to be precise the thee letters in the part number code, they are different). I'm not saying it won't fit (as tankslappa has already confirmed a Blackbird front wheel will), but there must be something slightly different about the two wheels.
Chris.
As far as I can see there appears to be a difference in part numbers (to be precise the thee letters in the part number code, they are different). I'm not saying it won't fit (as tankslappa has already confirmed a Blackbird front wheel will), but there must be something slightly different about the two wheels.
Chris.
- tankslappa
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
Paint colour?
I had the original (rather damaged) silver wheel side by side with the B-Bird wheel... I got the callipers (as in measuring, not brakes) out and measured everything I could. Everything was the same bar the paint finish.
More importantly, the discs mount on the holes, the original axle and spacers all fit, and it does the going round and round thing between the forks
Maybe it's tested to a higher spec for the heavier and faster bike? or made of badgers or something? I dunno.
I'll weigh it when I'm having the tyres changes and hopefully one of your guys can do the same with a standard front.

I had the original (rather damaged) silver wheel side by side with the B-Bird wheel... I got the callipers (as in measuring, not brakes) out and measured everything I could. Everything was the same bar the paint finish.
More importantly, the discs mount on the holes, the original axle and spacers all fit, and it does the going round and round thing between the forks

Maybe it's tested to a higher spec for the heavier and faster bike? or made of badgers or something? I dunno.
I'll weigh it when I'm having the tyres changes and hopefully one of your guys can do the same with a standard front.
- lloydie
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Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
I'm keeping an eye out for a decent pair of front discs for the storm and have been trying to check which other models will fit, some info collected is shown below incase it's of use to others:<br /><br />Outside Diameter 296<br />Inside Diameter 58<br />Bolt Hole Circumference 74<br />Bolt Hole Quantity 6<br />Bolt Hole Size 6.5<br />Thickness 4.0<br />Minimum Thickness 3.5<br />Offset 17.0<br />Type of Bolt Holes STRAIGHT<br />http://metalgear.com.au/mgear-brake-disc-front-leftright-p-6304.html<br /><br />EBC info<br />VTR1000F FIRESTORM 1997-2006<br />Will also fit the following models<br />CBR400 RRJ/RRK (NC23) TRI-ARM 1981-1989<br />CBR400 RRL/RRN/RRR (NC30) GULL-ARM 1990-1994<br />RVF400 RR/RR2/RT/RT2 (NC35) 1994-1996<br />VFR400 R3K/R3N/R3L/R3M NC30 1989-1992<br />CBR600F FS/FT/FV/FW 1995-1998<br />VFR750 FR/FS/FT/FV 1994-1997<br />CBR900RR FIREBLADE RRR/RRS/RRT/RRV 1994 - 1997<br />VTR1000F FIRESTORM 1997-2006<br />EBC PART NUMBER MD1003X <br /><br />I think some Aprillias had the same size discs but haven't found that info yet.
Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
Are Varadero discs the same?
Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat!
Silver 1998 'Storm! That keeps trying to kill me! And is leaving me soon!
Silver 1998 'Storm! That keeps trying to kill me! And is leaving me soon!

Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
I just went to have a look in Haynes, but they don't mention disc o/d sizes.Jester666 wrote:Are Varadero discs the same?
However on checking in Ebay I've just seen that Vara (XL1000) calipers are three-pot, rather than the two of a Storm.
Wonder if there's an upgrade opportunity?
Oddly, though, the RH caliper has larger bores than the LH one- because they fitted with the linked brakes- so probably not useful.
Ah well....

It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
Well after minuites of searching I have found the Varadero disc size...
296mm. So I guess they may well fit.
296mm. So I guess they may well fit.
Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat!
Silver 1998 'Storm! That keeps trying to kill me! And is leaving me soon!
Silver 1998 'Storm! That keeps trying to kill me! And is leaving me soon!

Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
Old thread I know, but just to sort out any confusion about what discs what fits what bike/wheels
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VTR 1000F Discs.
•Thickness: 4.5mm (0.17’’)
•Outer: 29.6cm (11.6’’)
•Inner: 5.8cm (2.3’’)
•Distance of screws: 3.7cm (1.46’’)
Compatible for Honda:
•CB 600 HORNET 2000-2006
•VFR 750 F 1994-1997
•CBR 600 F3 1995-1998
•CBR 900 RR 94-97
•VTR 1000 F FIRESTORM/SUPERHAWK 1997-2006
•CB 250 HORNET 1996-now
•RS 125 R 1991-2005
•RS 250 R 1990-1997
•TSR 250 1999-NOW
•RVF400 1994-1996
•CBR400R NC23 1986-1987
•CBR400RR NC23 1988-1989
•CBR 400RR NC29 1990-1994
•VFR 400 R (NC30) 1989-1992
•CB 400N 1982-1988

Just to stop any confusion about the Varadero discs, they will not fit the VTR.
The bikes that use Varadero fitting are-
•Thickness: 5mm
•Outer: 29.6cm (11.6")
•Inner: 6.2cm(2.4")
Compatible for Honda:
•CBR 600 F4 99-00
•VFR 800 VTEC INERCEPTOR 1998-2009
•CBR 900 RR 92-93
•XL1000V Varadero 1999-2007



VTR 1000F Discs.
•Thickness: 4.5mm (0.17’’)
•Outer: 29.6cm (11.6’’)
•Inner: 5.8cm (2.3’’)
•Distance of screws: 3.7cm (1.46’’)
Compatible for Honda:
•CB 600 HORNET 2000-2006
•VFR 750 F 1994-1997
•CBR 600 F3 1995-1998
•CBR 900 RR 94-97
•VTR 1000 F FIRESTORM/SUPERHAWK 1997-2006
•CB 250 HORNET 1996-now
•RS 125 R 1991-2005
•RS 250 R 1990-1997
•TSR 250 1999-NOW
•RVF400 1994-1996
•CBR400R NC23 1986-1987
•CBR400RR NC23 1988-1989
•CBR 400RR NC29 1990-1994
•VFR 400 R (NC30) 1989-1992
•CB 400N 1982-1988

Just to stop any confusion about the Varadero discs, they will not fit the VTR.
The bikes that use Varadero fitting are-
•Thickness: 5mm
•Outer: 29.6cm (11.6")
•Inner: 6.2cm(2.4")
Compatible for Honda:
•CBR 600 F4 99-00
•VFR 800 VTEC INERCEPTOR 1998-2009
•CBR 900 RR 92-93
•XL1000V Varadero 1999-2007


- TravisZack
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
do we know the weight differences of the wheels that fit? Can't find the info very easily...
- lloydie
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs
It's tiny difference ! 200g or so . Not really worth it to shed weight ,more looks tbh