riding then electrics die

[edds11]

Guy's, help please and any ideas before I pull the bike apart, riding down the road 30ish, bikes dies, no dash, nothing. I coast to a stop, and thinking its the R/R I touch it and its quite cool, it has an alarm and fob on it that allows you to start it remotely, so I try this and it starts, the dash all lights up everything normal so I ride it home and park it in the garage. I get changed and goes out to have a look, I try the key, still no power, try the fob, all good, unplug the alarm--no differance, no power. anything considered

[Wicky]

Get rid of the alarm.

[edds11]

If I unplug it it makes no difference, if it wasn't for the fob I would still be there

[VTRDark]

Try changing the battery in the alarm fob. If you disconnect the alarm from the main wiring harness it will make no difference because the wiring will be still be linked into the (I suspect LT coil circuit or ECU) to immobilise the bike. You could also try charging the bike battery. If the battery is low the alarm may play up or go into a fail safe mode or something.

Alarms are great when everything is working but when they go wrong they are a pain in the back end.

(:-})

[edds11]

I was driving down the road, it all died with no power to the dash and gauges, I coasted to a stop and turning the key on and of made no difference. I tried to start it with the fob and it started and the dash all came back to life, turn the engine of with the fob and then rearm and the dash goes of, start with the fob it all starts up again, try it with the key and I have nothing.

[VTRDark]

I would start with disabling the alarm. As mentioned it's no good just unplugging it as its wired into the circuitry of the bike. You should have a pin number or key/lock in the back of alarm unit or something to bypass the alarm all together. If the bike works and runs fine then it's a problem with the alarm. If the alarm has been bypassed/disabled and your still having problems then it's something with the bike. What type/brand of alarm is it?
It sounds like there's a problem with the alarm system but you need to eliminate any other issues that may be causing it.

(:-})

[edds11]

gonna get out the multimeter today, dont know if I was clear about no power, there is no power to the dash,handlebars or keyswitch, unless I start it with the fob and then its all normal

[AMCQ46]

It does sound strange that every body is blaming the alarm, when it was the only thing that saved you. But the fact that it's remote start feature was able to re power things up tells me that it must have been the same circuits that dropped the power in the first place.

So I also vote that the alarm or some of te wiring that it is attached to is the problem.

[edds11]

I agree with what your saying and the logic behind it, but ive just been out to it, it's bone dry, nothing with the key and it starts with the fob again. Battery fully charged.

[tony.mon]

It just might be that you have an intermittent earth connection, and it's insufficient to provide a return path for the current going to the front end.
But the alarm will route current directly from the alarm wiring to the starter relay, so it's not affected. Once the bike starts turning over, more voltage flows through the circuits throughout the bike than just battery voltage, as the RR outputs a higher voltage to the whole bike, not just the battery, This, and the vibration, might be just enough to re-make the earth connection.

So try running an extra piggyback earth direct to the battery -ve terminal and hold it onto an earth at the rear of the clocks.

[edds11]

cheers toni, is there a plug near the clocks that takes everything back to the frame?

[edds11]

I don't want to start taking of the fairing if I can access it by removing the clocks

[seb421]

I don't want to start taking of the fairing if I can access it by removing the clocks

Its a doodle the fairing on and off in a few mins, two bolts on each mirror then your four fairing bolts, pull it towards you un-clip the headlight and sidelight and indicators and its off

[tony.mon]

I don't want to start taking of the fairing if I can access it by removing the clocks

Yeah, and I want fuel in my bike without having to ride all the way to a garage.

Sometimes you just gotta put in the work necessary to fix the problem, or live with it the way it is.

With a problem as you've described, you're going to have to play about to meter out and find the fault. Get the Haynes wiring diagram out and a test meter and see what you find.
But there's a bunch of connections you can't get to properly by the headlight, unless you take the fairing off.

You might see a chafed wire immediately, and save a lot of time.

[edds11]

DDEEEERRRR... I know no pain no gain, 1 prob I have, and thats why I asked about the clocks, is that I have a lower fairing thats attached to the front, I also have mirror extenders which are a b8stard to get back on so its a bit more than a few bolt's and a couple of minutes defo NOT lazy