Engine on tick over

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lloydie
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Re: Engine on tick over

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bigspanishmarty wrote:if i rev my bike in neutral to about 2.500/3000 revs, theres a slight knock and the revs drop briefly and then everythings normal again, i'm told this is an airbox cough as well, it freaked me out at first because i thought it was something more serious, its just part of owning a v-twin and i still love it.

mine used to cough alot between 2000-3500 rpm but since i fitted 48s pilot jets it hasnt happened :D and ive done 600 miles .
i do think it coughs because of running lean in the bottom end .
all the mods i did leaned it out and the coughs got worse the leaner it got .
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I dont suggest you do this !!
but, I made the mistake of washing the bike on the gravel drive without the plastic "puk" sidestand thing, and sure enough as i came back out of the garage she slowly rolled over to the left and laid down, :oops: no damage, however, that was three months ago and its not coughed or knocked once since :thumbup:how the wombles that works i do not know.
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I have a good cough every morning, the first fag of the day with a cuppa, whilst sitting on the crapper soon sorts it out.

It's not intermittent, sometimes is a bit lumpy but doesn't seem to affect my performance.



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:lol: :lol: :sick:

+1 on what Lloydie says for me. The only time my 2000 storm has suffered this is when it's not been tuned. Whether that's out off balance or I have been messing with the jetting. I have a feeling that having unbaffled cans helps as well. And maybe the TPS comes into play also.

To say they all do it is just unacceptable to me. There has to be a solution and IMO I think it's down to tuning.

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cybercarl wrote::lol: :lol: :sick:

+1 on what Lloydie says for me. The only time my 2000 storm has suffered this is when it's not been tuned. Whether that's out off balance or I have been messing with the jetting. I have a feeling that having unbaffled cans helps as well. And maybe the TPS comes into play also.

To say they all do it is just unacceptable to me. There has to be a solution and IMO I think it's down to tuning.

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Oh, there's a fix right enough, just lengthen and reduce in diameter both inlet tracts so that the mixture can't ignite in the airbox before the valves close.
Or advance the inlet cam timing- same result. It'll be closed before the spark occurs.
Or retard the ignition timing- as before the spark will not occur until after the valves have fully closed.

But you'll lose top end power and gain low end with all of these.
I think it's just because the engine's tuned as standard to be about as aggressive as it can be with this size carbs, and still meet emission standards.

Once people start tuning them, no-one's bothered about emissions, just performance, and so the problem goes away.

But they're certainly worse when the carbs are out of balance.
I'd prefer they don't do it, but it doesn't cause a problem, and so rather than have people worrying about it I advise leaving it alone, with the exception of upping the tickover and getting carbs balanced.
The trouble is: I offer a carb balance service for a few pounds, and so could be accused of exaggerating a problem to make some money.
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That does make perfect sense there being an overlap when firing, so it spits back into the airbox.
To say they all do it is just unacceptable to me
I wasn't aiming that at you specifically. I have said it to newbies myself. The thing is one can advice to do something or change something to someone without knowing their mechanical skills or knowledge, which sometimes is like opening up a can of worms which could have come backs. I'm very wary of this with cct advice. :roll:

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tony mon wrote

"I'd prefer they don't do it, but it doesn't cause a problem, and so rather than have people worrying about it I advise leaving it alone"

thats the sort of technical advice i like :thumbup:
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