alternative way to get fuel into engine

[scottyhatchi]

ive got it out the carb now but obviously i now cnt tighten the choke into carbs as can see in next pic the plastic has snapped away from over tightening

[scottyhatchi]

[VTRDark]

If you quick maye, bargain choke cable here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-VTR1000 ... 5d316f2fbc otherwise it's 2nd hand carbs. Double check with seller if it has the black threaded nuts on end.

Catch you late, I'm eating my dinner as I was reading you posts

[edit] Cancel that I just scrutinised the pic and it hasnt the nuts, but this 2nd hand one has http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-VTR-100 ... 5193012dec[/edit]

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[VTRDark]

Right that's my stomach filled.

Bummer about the choke cable. Common mistake people make that one. You need to be very careful and not overtighten those nuts and the thread is very fine. And to make it worse they didn't need to be disconnected as the choke can be undone at the bracket by the knob on the frame, then cables lifted out with the carbs.

If cash is tight you may be able to make a bodge repair to the broken bit with a bit of glue and then gentley thread it back into the carb. It would also be a good idea to put a bit of silicone around the outside of it to hold it all in place. Not ideal though. Better to get new cables.

This pic here

The choke cable on the left should run over the top of the pipe coming out the top of the coolant bottle. Otherwise it makes it tricky when removing or replacing carbs, as like I said the whole choke can be removed still attached. What's the hose coming from the left by the choke cable there, going over the bar?

Now see the hose to the right of the coolant bottle by the cct blank on the engine case. On yours it is leading down to the thermostat housing which looks wrong to me. Disconnect that from the thermo housing and that connects into the nubbin on the front carb. Now you should have another hose the same diameter that goes into the thermo housing there, and that connects to the nubbin on the rear carb.

Have another look at my pic and you can see it clearly

Click on pic to enlarge.

That's the correct way to put it back together. Lloydie is right you could get rid of them all together and bypass the carbs which is what it looks like has been done. You don't necessarily need the coolant hoses or carb heater hoses as they are sometimes called, which is what their job is. Basically IIRC what they do is, in cold condition's below zero, they pump warm water into the carbs which helps aid the cold starting of the bike and helps the fuel burn by pre warming it up before it goes in to the intake/cylinders. A bit like a de-icer.

Hopefully that clears things up and all make sense to you now. I think it's the missing hose from the thermostat housing that was confusing things.

Now where those breathers.

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[lloydie]

This is the carb heater pipe and it looks like you have bypassed the carbs already

[scottyhatchi]

so basically my carbs have been bypassed then so as it stands it is correct as it is ?

[VTRDark]

correct as it is

correct may be the wrong term but yeh it seems like it's all good. I'm a bit confused to what the hose is that comes from the left over the top of the frame and then seem to disappear near the coolant bottle. The on the top left of your pic by the choke cable. Where is that connected and where's it coming from.?

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[scottyhatchi]

from the filler cap on radiator going to the bottle

[VTRDark]

Argh that's good then, except it should be running under that bar and the other hose that runs parallel with the coolant bottle. It may help with the flow of coolant if it's on the bottom.

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[scottyhatchi]

thanx well i shall re rougt that while its all open anyway .. btw this bazza is that user seb ?? was him i was speaking to and lost contact to . if u can get contact with any1 with manual ccts cud u please ask them to contact me please .. as for the lock key i was just told was easier to open my current ones n lock them so that i can then have the settings to transfer to the manuals

[VTRDark]

Bazza is the the user name it's not Seb PMSL. Bazza does the auto ccts that have been converted to manuals. So they will look the same as yours but with a thread and nut sticking out the end. If you get some from Bazza pass your old ones back on to him to be converted for others?

If your fitting manuals you don't need to worry about the locking key. That's is only needed if replacing with the same shitty standard Honda autos.

Here you go, give Bazza996 a PM http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/memberlis ... ile&u=8046 he'll sort you out mate. He's a good bloke

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[Wicky]

as for the lock key i was just told was easier to open my current ones n lock them so that i can then have the settings to transfer to the manuals

Only really essential if you're doing the stopper mod.

[scottyhatchi]

i tried to message him but wen i click send it says username doesnt exist >?

[scottyhatchi]

never mind message sent now i was putting the sublect in the username box thats why it was saying user doesnt exist ha ha ha ha ha

[tony.mon]

Mate, you really need to step back, disconnect everything and start over.

Just the small pipes.

Don't worry about the pies, or pips, for now, anyway.