stopper

[rich 1]

hi guys just getting to grips with this stopper. tut if i.m wrong but the way i see it i take the tensioner out (i,m skipping the tdc bit) i then knock the roll pin out and take the plunger off and get my piece off m8 bolt and put it down the tube so its just below the roll pin hole then put the plunger and roll pin back and bobs your uncle.

[scott02464]

Don't forget to lock your cct off with the key mate to keep the measurement for each cct (they will both be different)

The 8mm bar will be a bit further inside the cct below the roll pin slot as the plunger head fits into the tube slightly.

Then put it all back together and then yes bobs your uncle, you can put it back in the bike.

[sirch345]

I hope your setting up the valve timing before removing the CCT's, as in this link below:-
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 31&t=19416

Chris.

[scott02464]

I hope your setting up the valve timing before removing the CCT's, as in this link below:-
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 31&t=19416

Chris.

Me too, I took that comment as 'he's already set the timing and for this question he's skipped to the plunger head bit'

[VTRDark]

It's allright guys I've offered to lend a hand, as long as he sorts his bits of metal out for the stopper and key. Mind you after having a read up myself on stoppers a screwdriver can be used as a key ala mr mon route.

What I am unsure of is the locking off part. Where does the key go to lock it off. You have the nut on the end of the CCT, but wheres the worm which needs to be turned 1/4 or 1/2 turn depending on cylinder. Is the worm under the nut.?

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[scott02464]

You take the nut off. Then the key which is 'T' shaped fits into a slot on the end of the worm screw.

Imagine the shank of the 'T' is inserted first to do the twisting, then you push the key in further so the cross section part of the 'T' is inserted to stop it twisting.

When you see the setup you'll deffo see what I mean ;-)

[scott02464]

Ps if you were just using a screwdriver mate it would screw it out but I can't see how you would lock it off without the key...

I'll have a look in the shed tomorrow and see if I have the key from when I did mine to send you ;-)

[VTRDark]

Right I'm with you that makes total sense. So the screwdriver would work if it was shaped like a T Now I understand why it needs to be made beforehand.

and heres a diagram for a key


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[scott02464]

That's right bud, it's a fiddly little bugger, I got one with a set of ccts I bought when I did the stopper mod but if I had to make one I would make it so the head if the 'T' is a bit longer. As this is the bit you hold and the one I got I ended up holdin with my thumb and finger tips. Wasn't comfortable when your trying to be delicate. Plus the more you have to hold will give you more control. When it slips out your fingers it twangs back in quite quickly ha

[VTRDark]

So its the slotted head in the bit on the bottom of your avatar? Looks like a screwdriver would fit there so I'm assuming there is something in the cast of the cct that requires it to be T shape.

I should have stripped my old ones down just for curiosity instead of giving them to Bazza. Doh

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[MacV2]

So its the slotted head in the bit on the bottom of your avatar? Looks like a screwdriver would fit there so I'm assuming there is something in the cast of the cct that requires it to be T shape.

I should have stripped my old ones down just for curiosity instead of giving them to Bazza. Doh

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IIRC the locking tool goes in the end of the CCT body. When the CCT is in place ther is a small nut on the end, remove this & inside is a slotted head. With a flat blade screwdriver you can turn it feel the spring resistance, or not if it has broken ! This is the bit that you are locking off. Hope that helps.

[VTRDark]

That makes perfect sense it's just why the T bit, because a screwdriver could be used to push down on it and twist so it slots in and locks off. It would be nice to have a photo of the inside of the cct where this is. I guess it will all make sense when I see it and I'm worrying about nothing. It's probably Honda over complicating things and making a specific tool for the purpose because they can, and then sell them at extortionate prices.

Rich one more thing that needs to be checked before and cct work is carried out is to check that the generator cap comes off. On the left hand side of the bike on the generator/alternator cover there is a large alloy cap in the centre with and allen key attachment in the middle. Check this and make sure it comes undone easily enough as these have a nasty habit of being overtightened and seizing up which requires butchering them out and replacing with a new one.

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[scott02464]

So its the slotted head in the bit on the bottom of your avatar? Looks like a screwdriver would fit there so I'm assuming there is something in the cast of the cct that requires it to be T shape.

I should have stripped my old ones down just for curiosity instead of giving them to Bazza. Doh

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That's right mate, the shank of the 'T'' fits the slotted head of the gold coloured screw. Twisted to however much you need to wind it out. Then the key is pushed further in until the head of the 'T' is slotted between the '+' shaped end of the cct body.

Here's a couple of pics I found, you can see the end of the ccts with the key in place. The bolt on the end seems to be just to cap the end of the cct off mate ;-)

Pay no attention to the red writing, it's just a pic I found in the Internet lol.





And here's a bigger pic of my avatar

[scott02464]

That makes perfect sense it's just why the T bit, because a screwdriver could be used to push down on it and twist so it slots in and locks off. It would be nice to have a photo of the inside of the cct where this is. I guess it will all make sense when I see it and I'm worrying about nothing. It's probably Honda over complicating things and making a specific tool for the purpose because they can, and then sell them at extortionate prices.

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Lol what are the chances, we must have been writing at the same time ha!

A screwdriver would screw the cct mate, but once you've back the cct off 1/4-1/2 turn you need to lock it off. If you don't lock it off it will wind all the way out as you take the cct out

You need the 'T' shaped bit as the stepped head is the bit that fits into the crossed shaped cast of the body stopping it from unwinding automatically

Hope this makes sense bud, you will deffo see what I mean when you see one for yourself

[VTRDark]

Got it, that makes sense, so it needs to be pushed in a fair way and twisted round until it slips into one of the cross + shaped section in the casting. Looks like a piece of piss to me and having to have the tool is a big faff over nothing.

Thanks Scott you have been most helpful. It's nice when the boots on the other foot for a change.

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