Bull sh1t Power Again
Bull sh1t Power Again
My mate has it in his head that his 2003 350z Stock has 280+ hp at the wheels
i've tried telling him that's not at the wheels but he wont have it, cant wait to show him this
http://www.importtuner.com/powerpages/0 ... ewall.html
On the Dynojet, the 287 flywheel horsepower resulted in 231.8 hp and 227.1 lb-ft of torque to the wheels.
Even the mechanic was trying to claim he had 150 rwhp on his stock 98 R1, ....try 128 mate
i've tried telling him that's not at the wheels but he wont have it, cant wait to show him this
http://www.importtuner.com/powerpages/0 ... ewall.html
On the Dynojet, the 287 flywheel horsepower resulted in 231.8 hp and 227.1 lb-ft of torque to the wheels.
Even the mechanic was trying to claim he had 150 rwhp on his stock 98 R1, ....try 128 mate
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
just about everyone I know will claim peak power, not many are honest enough to give its actual power at the wheels
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
My Jag makes more than that , and it's slow compared to my Storm. Slow compared to my RM aswell lol. Cars suck mate, you want real power, get a bike :-)
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
Superbike did a test on a stack of bikes including 3 R1's and they all hit about 128 bhp, from a claimed 150bhp that's a major loss. Think a lot of bikes don't make the right figures, depends on engine running in etc. Think the only bike in the test that made its claimed bhp was an old Kawasaki ZZR 1100, A lot of car and bike lovers exaggerate the bhp for their ride, but power ain't everything, it's how it's used and how it's put down , that's my opinion . Regards Dude
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
it is 150hp but not after its been through the box and chain and put down on the roadBullyboydave wrote:Superbike did a test on a stack of bikes including 3 R1's and they all hit about 128 bhp, from a claimed 150bhp that's a major loss. Think a lot of bikes don't make the right figures, depends on engine running in etc. Think the only bike in the test that made its claimed bhp was an old Kawasaki ZZR 1100, A lot of car and bike lovers exaggerate the bhp for their ride, but power ain't everything, it's how it's used and how it's put down , that's my opinion . Regards Dude
i just wish it was law that all manufactures quoted power figures was true whp figures to stop naive folk from being misled
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
same as Richard swingers in all walks reallyBullyboydave wrote: A lot of car and bike lovers exaggerate the bhp for their ride, but power ain't everything, it's how it's used and how it's put down , that's my opinion . Regards Dude
that is going on my plate. forum philosophy at it's most refinedyou want real power, get a bike
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
mines a 108 on the wheel on a good day .callam_nffc wrote:just about everyone I know will claim peak power, not many are honest enough to give its actual power at the wheels
on a bad day its got 200 on the front wheel
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mines got a dyno'd 167bhp............................oh no wait thats 67bhp
it was running on one cylinder intermitently......
it was running on one cylinder intermitently......
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
bigspanishmarty wrote:mines got a dyno'd 167bhp............................oh no wait thats 67bhp
it was running on one cylinder intermitently......
Look on the bright side, that's twice as much as I currently get on 4 cylinders!!!
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
probably cos jags weigh a tonne lol
the only time Ive ever been done was by this black impreza, sounded like it had anti-lag and was spitting flames like there was no tomorrow
the only time Ive ever been done was by this black impreza, sounded like it had anti-lag and was spitting flames like there was no tomorrow
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
that's 128bhp at about 10,000rpm.seb421 wrote:it is 150hp but not after its been through the box and chain and put down on the roadBullyboydave wrote:Superbike did a test on a stack of bikes including 3 R1's and they all hit about 128 bhp, from a claimed 150bhp that's a major loss. Think a lot of bikes don't make the right figures, depends on engine running in etc. Think the only bike in the test that made its claimed bhp was an old Kawasaki ZZR 1100, A lot of car and bike lovers exaggerate the bhp for their ride, but power ain't everything, it's how it's used and how it's put down , that's my opinion . Regards Dude
i just wish it was law that all manufactures quoted power figures was true whp figures to stop naive folk from being misled
how many riders ever take their bike anywhere near the limiter?
realistically they're probably riding round 50 - 65hp.
look at any firestorm dyno charts and you will see the power comes in very steep from low rpm and you are making 75-80hp at the wheel at 3500 - 4000rpm.
thats what makes them so rideable imo.
to keep almost any inline 4 up there you would have to be working the gearbox pretty hard to keep it on song.
one bloke told me he had his storm dyno'd and they measured the power at the camshafts, at the gearbox and at the rear wheel.
how did they do that then i asked..... and where was this lol
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
well Benny I can certainly say that on previous bikes I used to thrash the life out of them when going out with certain mates
and I certainly agree its more whos riding the bike that makes the big difference usually
and I certainly agree its more whos riding the bike that makes the big difference usually
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Yep, life at the limiter is where it's at, for sure.
Although your common or garden vee twin is probably more useful lower down.
But if you can't bounce it off the limiter in the lower gears you'll never know what it'll really do.
I just want it all, really. BHP and grunt out of the corners. Probably I should have bought a Triumph trip.
Although your common or garden vee twin is probably more useful lower down.
But if you can't bounce it off the limiter in the lower gears you'll never know what it'll really do.
I just want it all, really. BHP and grunt out of the corners. Probably I should have bought a Triumph trip.
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
my mates just bought a speed triple R, safe to say I'm jealous lol
I'm used to keeping an inline 4 screaming to keep it really. motoring, which is probably why this storm will take a lot of practice to get the most from it
I'm used to keeping an inline 4 screaming to keep it really. motoring, which is probably why this storm will take a lot of practice to get the most from it
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Re: Bull sh1t Power Again
It's the same as manufactures quoting DRY weights of bikes.
They even drain the forks of oil! I think BMW are the only one that give at true weight with all fluids in the bike!
They even drain the forks of oil! I think BMW are the only one that give at true weight with all fluids in the bike!