stock carb + exhaust +air filter set up

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Mon May 06, 2013 4:53 pm

right ho chaps as my leo can is foobar and i dont have the money for the new set i want yet so i need to fit the standard setup .
i have standard exhausts (debaffled) standard headers and spare set of carbs and air box .
as i want to fit this lot whats the best setup i can get with these standard parts ?.
1, main jets
2,needle hight
3,mixtures
4, slides drilled/undrilled 1,2,3 holes ?
i will be getting it on the dyno but need a good base line setting first .
i will have to get my spare carbs cleaned up and buy come exhaust gaskets and clamps at the weekend and a air filter .

VTRDark · Post by **VTRDark** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:01 pm

I can;t believe you need to ask. Are you feeling OK. Ribbit

178 rear 175 front mains
Standard needles or experiment with adjustable's
48 pilots
A/F start with 2.5 front and 2.1/4 rear

What stacks are you going to be running?

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macdee · Post by **macdee** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:06 pm

what about trying out hawks set up in the superhawk forum across the pond
allot of the yanks seem to like it

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:37 pm

macdee wrote:what about trying out hawks set up in the superhawk forum across the pond
allot of the yanks seem to like it

What's that ?

I have had 3 sets of carbs but all have been dyno jetted Carl so I don't know standard setting .
Standard needles :-)

macdee · Post by **macdee** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:46 pm

lloydie wrote:
macdee wrote:what about trying out hawks set up in the superhawk forum across the pond
allot of the yanks seem to like it
What's that ?

I have had 3 sets of carbs but all have been dyno jetted Carl so I don't know standard setting .

8541 hawk has a setup for standard carbs/ needles/ 48 pilots etc/ standard air filter/slip on,s
you need to read it yourself there's loads of info
let us know how you get on

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:49 pm

I will have a good read :-)
Thanks chaps

macdee · Post by **macdee** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Technical Discussion section
sticky

VTRDark · Post by **VTRDark** » Mon May 06, 2013 6:05 pm

Here you go http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums/te ... -up-24769/ and yes I agree. This is what I have just done with Marty's bike. I didn't shim it quite as much though. 30 though on the rear and 20 on the front. Dont forget the standard needles are a slightly different length. They are not the same as in the US, but nether the the less, they are slightly different IIRC by about 3 thoug. You will have to measure them with a vernier guage. The longer one goes in the front.

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VTRDark · Post by **VTRDark** » Wed May 15, 2013 9:21 pm

So I don't jack the other thread.

lloydie wrote:
cybercarl wrote:
carbs set to hawks specs work great the frog feels more linear with the power delivery and I couldn't feel any flat spots .
Lloyd did you block a lift hole in each slide as well?

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i blocked 2 in the front and one in the rear .
i now have one in the front and two in the rear .

According to Hawks set up you should block a hole in each slide if running the billet stacks.

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lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Wed May 15, 2013 9:44 pm

ive just re read it and you are correct

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that will give me something to do next week

VTRDark · Post by **VTRDark** » Wed May 15, 2013 9:49 pm

You didn't believe me then

The other benefit with them both being equally the same is that when it comes to doing a carb balance both cylinders will rise equally the same.

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lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Wed May 15, 2013 9:53 pm

cybercarl wrote:You didn't believe me then The other benefit with them both being equally the same is that when it comes to doing a carb balance both cylinders will rise equally the same.

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i believed you i just wanted to read it again to see what else i missed

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i think i will order new slide springs and do both jobs at the same time .
how much were yours carl ?

VTRDark · Post by **VTRDark** » Wed May 15, 2013 10:04 pm

I cant remember exactly how much they where now. They where cheap though, something like £12 or something. The worst bit was waiting for them to arrive from the suppliers. I had to wait for the them to arrive from Holland. It was either David silvers or Wemoto where I ordered them from. New springs do make a difference, you will be surprised how much your old ones have shrunk over time.

[edit] here you go
http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetails/N/687/SKU/241686
http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/part ... 050MBB640/
£8 each[/edit]

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lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Wed May 15, 2013 10:14 pm

thanks carl

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Fri May 17, 2013 12:56 am

finished a little early tonight so after a 25 mile ride home in the rain

i blocked up one more hole in the rear slide and got the bike ready for a test ride tomorrow / later lol .

so carb settings now are

1 lift hole in both front and rear slides (for use with dr honda billet velocity stacks)
1 needle washer front
2 needle washers rear
2.25 turns out on front mixture
2,5 turns out on rear mixture
still standard main jets
48s slow/pilot jets .

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