Question regarding fitting of Manual cct's.

[VTRDark]

Curious, just because changing to manuals is a job on my winter list.

Even though manuals don't need adjustment, I'm coming around to Al's way of thinking. At the end of the day it's what was designed to work with the engine and will keep adjusting to keep a constant tension on the chain no matter if the engine is cold, hot or how many miles one has done. It just allows for those smaller fluctuations.

I also don't have to worry about them sitting around doing nothing over winter or in storage (apart from the shelf at Honda spares ) as my bike is used all year around and they will be in constant motion so less chance of the spring failing. I would most likely pop the cap of the front one now and again and pack some grease or oil in there from time to time though.

its cheaper to do the stopper mod than buy new manual cct's..........

Not really when you consider that the price of Honda Autos are way more expensive. The fist thing I would do is by new ones as I wouldn't know the history of the ones installed. Then do a stopper mod to the new ones.

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[8541Hawk]

I think you have been very lucky Mike, and the sidestand IIRC has also been mentioned by Roger along with not allowing high engine braking. But don't forget a Mori Race bike back in it's day most likely would have had a complete engine rebuild after pretty much every race or every other race. It's a totally different animal and don't even have a sidestand, lives on paddock stands. when not out on track, Higher compression, higher oil pressure etc etc.

I'm sorry but the evidence is out there, there are loads of bikes that have had failures way under the service limit. Now I'm not against the use of Honda tensioners, in fact I would probably go that route myself if I bought another VTR, but would say to anyone that is using them to at least do a stopper mod on them as a safety precaution. At least then if/when it fails there is no catastrophes with engine internals. Unfortunately this is the nature of the beast with a V Twin.

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I really don't have an answer. Maybe it is because the bike is used year round and does sit for any extended period of time.
Or maybe it is because I do follow the "rules" to long CCT life.

The only thing I can report is they have worked fine for me.

Though like I have also said, more than likely I will go to manuals on the next change as I am getting tired of changing them out as I am on my 4th set.

[leevtr]

Bit off topic, but its amazing how most people here regard 50,000 on a bike as high mileage, yet in the US it seems the norm, and then some. I know there are a few exceptions to the rule here, but not that many.

Why is this. Maybe this should be a new thread

[VTRDark]

Everything is bigger in the States.

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