This winter's rebuild and mods
Re: This winter's rebuild and mods
Now that’s a techie winters rebuild!
Intrigued by what appears to be a Drumkit in the background!
Is it for exhaust tuning or pretend sound while its off the road.
BTW what happened to the last engine, have I missed a post?
Look forward to reading more meanwhile I’ll stick to my bog standard Storm!
Intrigued by what appears to be a Drumkit in the background!
Is it for exhaust tuning or pretend sound while its off the road.
BTW what happened to the last engine, have I missed a post?
Look forward to reading more meanwhile I’ll stick to my bog standard Storm!
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Hi
Very ambitous and inspiring..............
Excuse my ignorance,
, but why not get a SP1 motor with associated parts and fit that ?
Cheers
Matt
Very ambitous and inspiring..............

Excuse my ignorance,

Cheers
Matt
1998 VTR, One of the red fast ones, Harris Laverda
Re: This winter's rebuild and mods
Cuz, you'd have to re weld the entire frame to get it to fit in there... Not even close to the same dimensions either way...Golgother wrote:Hi
Very ambitous and inspiring..............![]()
Excuse my ignorance,, but why not get a SP1 motor with associated parts and fit that ?
Cheers
Matt
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Always an argument, if you were trying to Shoe horn a sp lump into a storm why not just buy an early sp1 !! Cos for some the tinkering is the fun!!
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good luck with it all tony, how's the missus with you using the house instead of your man cave...
did you get those r&g fork protectors?

did you get those r&g fork protectors?
HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!!
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Sure, I could just buy an SP.
But then I'd have a bike same as many out there. Mine's unique.
Anyway, it's an intellectual game, thinking about ways to improve (hopefully) the standard bike.
I'm not really inventing that much brand new, just taking some ideas and combining them in a single build.
Most of it will work, some might not, but until I try it I'll never know- and just suppose I had an idea, and didn't try it- then I'd never know whether it would work or not.
So for now, I'll carry on playing with the Storm for a bit- if I run out of ideas, then maybe it's time to get started on an SP1 or 2, and see what can be done to improve that.
AP- no, I didn't pick the fork protectors up, but I already had a set of R+G ones anyway ready to fit. The others we saw would have been spares or stock items.
Hoppo- that's the wife's drum kit, well, borrowed from a friend who hasn't got room for it.
I have a mobile disco to play with!
Latest update- Got an SP1 six spoke wheel, but it fits on a 22mm spindle, the Blade forks I am using has a 25mm one. So I've ordered a set of deep groove SKF bearings which will fit both.
They're 12mm wide instead of 14mm, so I've compensated with wider seals.
I'll need to make some spacers, and I think I'll see if I can make some captive spacers, so that they don't fall out every time the wheel comes out.
Google "captive spacers" to see how they work.
Changed the taper roller bearings in the frame, tomorrow evening I'll grind the old bearing lower race off the headstock spindle and fit the new inner races.
So a quick question- I need a new tube spacer- the one that fits around the spindle between the wheel bearings, and two captive spacers making up, preferably the spindle tube in aluminium and the spacers in steel or Ti, if I have my choices.
But I don't have a lathe.... Anyone fancy helping me out?
Paying for the job, of course.
But then I'd have a bike same as many out there. Mine's unique.
Anyway, it's an intellectual game, thinking about ways to improve (hopefully) the standard bike.
I'm not really inventing that much brand new, just taking some ideas and combining them in a single build.
Most of it will work, some might not, but until I try it I'll never know- and just suppose I had an idea, and didn't try it- then I'd never know whether it would work or not.
So for now, I'll carry on playing with the Storm for a bit- if I run out of ideas, then maybe it's time to get started on an SP1 or 2, and see what can be done to improve that.
AP- no, I didn't pick the fork protectors up, but I already had a set of R+G ones anyway ready to fit. The others we saw would have been spares or stock items.
Hoppo- that's the wife's drum kit, well, borrowed from a friend who hasn't got room for it.
I have a mobile disco to play with!
Latest update- Got an SP1 six spoke wheel, but it fits on a 22mm spindle, the Blade forks I am using has a 25mm one. So I've ordered a set of deep groove SKF bearings which will fit both.
They're 12mm wide instead of 14mm, so I've compensated with wider seals.
I'll need to make some spacers, and I think I'll see if I can make some captive spacers, so that they don't fall out every time the wheel comes out.
Google "captive spacers" to see how they work.
Changed the taper roller bearings in the frame, tomorrow evening I'll grind the old bearing lower race off the headstock spindle and fit the new inner races.
So a quick question- I need a new tube spacer- the one that fits around the spindle between the wheel bearings, and two captive spacers making up, preferably the spindle tube in aluminium and the spacers in steel or Ti, if I have my choices.
But I don't have a lathe.... Anyone fancy helping me out?
Paying for the job, of course.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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dam it, I was going to offer my services, but you beat me to it.....gl_s_r wrote:PM'd



HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!!
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I could use that lift to get a couple of the pricks I work with out. Of their chairs!!!
I might see if I can talk my bean counter into buying it as we on an efficiency drive.
Then I could sneak it home when no one is looking and put it to good use.
I might see if I can talk my bean counter into buying it as we on an efficiency drive.
Then I could sneak it home when no one is looking and put it to good use.
South Coast
New South Wales
Australia
New South Wales
Australia
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No argument here. I'm in the can't leave things alone camp, specials are great and if you have to ask you would not understand and cuz I can, all ring good with me.ging500 wrote:Always an argument, if you were trying to Shoe horn a sp lump into a storm why not just buy an early sp1 !! Cos for some the tinkering is the fun!!
There's a clue in my signature.
Cheers
Matt
1998 VTR, One of the red fast ones, Harris Laverda
Re: This winter's rebuild and mods
brilliant thread.. keep the engineering porn coming sir 

the older i get,the faster i was 

Re: This winter's rebuild and mods
Spent the day cutting the lockstops off the Blade lower yoke, fabbing some brackets to move the rads rearwards about an inch (which will mean that the little push-in lower fairing buttons won't line up- I'll sort something out when I get round to putting the plastics back on- a long way off yet).
Then pulled the carbs off and removed all of the hoses so that I can start on a fibreglass mould of the airbox area.

Not going to start tonight, though.
Then pulled the carbs off and removed all of the hoses so that I can start on a fibreglass mould of the airbox area.

Not going to start tonight, though.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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Looks like it needs a clean !!
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That is clean for Tony's bike 

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Yellow 1997 Storm R.I.P. Orange 2000 Streetfighter (Rufus), Red & Silver 1968 Triumph Trophy 650, Blue 2003 Storm Project, Red 2007 Montesa Cota Trials 250 & 1959 BSA D7 175cc Bantam Trials Project
Yellow 1997 Storm R.I.P. Orange 2000 Streetfighter (Rufus), Red & Silver 1968 Triumph Trophy 650, Blue 2003 Storm Project, Red 2007 Montesa Cota Trials 250 & 1959 BSA D7 175cc Bantam Trials Project
Re: This winter's rebuild and mods
Update:
Forks stripped, noticed a small indentation on one of the stanchions i wanted to use, so may have to buy a pattern one....
On the upside, my Xmas present to the bike arrived today, lovely two-part Woodcraft 3" riser clip-ons.
Hopefully collecting lightened flywheel and front wheel captive spacers this afternoon, it's all slowly coming together.
I made some brackets to move the rads back 20mm, to allow full fork movement, once the forks are rebuilt and fitted I can drill the lower yoke for new stops- using M8 SS cap heads. I'll just drill and tap the yoke and the cap head will act as stops, which I just cut off the yoke lower, rather than filing and sawing a profile on the cast bits.
With my method I can easily adjust the "stop" cap head diameter, by fitting a larger diameter spacer, if I need to adjust the lockstop range, and a big tankslapper won't ruin the yoke, just snap the heads off the cap head screws.
I now have all of the knackered/odd coloured plastic fairing sections I need so that I can cut them up for the Ram Air bit, I'll be getting on with that tomorrow, and if that all works ok I'll doctor the good yellow fairing set.
Soon I'll be getting going on the fibreglass airbox first attempt.
I might need a few goes to get something that fits and works ok.
If it works, then I'll sort a carbon one, but carbon weave is too expensive to play with until I have a fully working box to copy.
Forks stripped, noticed a small indentation on one of the stanchions i wanted to use, so may have to buy a pattern one....
On the upside, my Xmas present to the bike arrived today, lovely two-part Woodcraft 3" riser clip-ons.
Hopefully collecting lightened flywheel and front wheel captive spacers this afternoon, it's all slowly coming together.
I made some brackets to move the rads back 20mm, to allow full fork movement, once the forks are rebuilt and fitted I can drill the lower yoke for new stops- using M8 SS cap heads. I'll just drill and tap the yoke and the cap head will act as stops, which I just cut off the yoke lower, rather than filing and sawing a profile on the cast bits.
With my method I can easily adjust the "stop" cap head diameter, by fitting a larger diameter spacer, if I need to adjust the lockstop range, and a big tankslapper won't ruin the yoke, just snap the heads off the cap head screws.
I now have all of the knackered/odd coloured plastic fairing sections I need so that I can cut them up for the Ram Air bit, I'll be getting on with that tomorrow, and if that all works ok I'll doctor the good yellow fairing set.
Soon I'll be getting going on the fibreglass airbox first attempt.
I might need a few goes to get something that fits and works ok.
If it works, then I'll sort a carbon one, but carbon weave is too expensive to play with until I have a fully working box to copy.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.