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Standard carb setting

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Sorry if it's on here, not got time at moment to search..

2000 model

Mains, 175 fr 178 rear
Pilots, 48
Mixture screws, 1 and 3/4 turns out both front and rear.

Is all this standard, I would imagine it is but just checking.

Bike has Micron carbon cans, I know it'll run ok with standard carbs but to those who have played with jetting is it worth changing mains to slightly different size ?, also is it worth bringing mixtures out a little ?. I don't want to be taking things off all the time and constantly adjusting, just want to ride the damn thing so not looking for perfection just a safe smooth running bike, like I said I know it should ride ok as is so could just leave it.

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Stick it on the Dyno as you know that will tell you if its ok .
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When mine was stock I just lifted the needles .5 and 1mm. Blocked a hole in the front slide and it was golden.
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Is all this standard, I would imagine it is but just checking
Yep all standard :thumbup: Tweak your mixtures if needs be and you will be good to go. A shim or two under the needles would most likely help with the de baffled cans though, but you you can (ha ha) kinda compensate for that with a slightly richer bottom end. Not perfect but it will get you by. You can start tinkering at a later date then.

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I'm not fecking about with it :lol: I'm just gonna ride it. might have gone up a jet size but I think i'll just leave it alone as I assume it was ok before, didn't know if the mixture setting was standard, cheers for confirming Carl.

Lloydie, nearest dyno is about 150 miles away, we have to go old skool and do plug chops round these parts :wink:
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I didn't say the mixture setting was standard, there's no such thing. :confused Has someone hijacked your account. its this really you. :lol: 1 3/4 give or take a 1/4 turn is about right. What's making you question it.

I couldn't tell you how many turns on mine as I have done them by ear and can't count the turns on my screwdriver and listen to the engine and exhaust note at the same time.

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cybercarl wrote:I didn't say the mixture setting was standard, there's no such thing. :confused Has someone hijacked your account. its this really you. :lol: 1 3/4 give or take a 1/4 turn is about right. What's making you question it.

I couldn't tell you how many turns on mine as I have done them by ear and can't count the turns on my screwdriver and listen to the engine and exhaust note at the same time.

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It's me :wave: I was rushing around at work earlier the carbs were apart aswell, now had a bad evening too with other stuff, can't have good days every day..
I couldn't find anything on standard settings, most bikes have standard setting from the factory. I asked because of the idiot who supposedly cleaned the carbs before I bought it, although now I think he just drained the float bowls and charged the previous owner for cleaning them..
As I'm sure he hasn't messed them up I'm happy it's how it came from the factory.
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Fork oil day number two is it :lol: You will never know until you open them up to see for yourself. Silly things like the emulsion tubes being the wrong way around or even the needles as they are fractionally different front and rear too. But as long as the bike runs good with no issues there is no need to worry really. Does the rev needle rise nicely and drop nicely with no fluctuations. That would be you give away for the mixture setting.

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cybercarl wrote:Does the rev needle rise nicely and drop nicely with no fluctuations. That would be you give away for the mixture setting.

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Who knows :lol: only had it running for a short while when I bought it, and I now know the choke was permanently on. it won't be running for the next week or so either as got a few bits to sort first and going to paint front cam cover before putting it back on which I will take home and put by a heat source to cure it a bit.
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I bet you have a nice parts washer too. You could of had them off by now, stripped down and in the washer. Marty will be putting you to shame at this rate. :biggrin :crazy: I think you have spent too much time wit FI and forgotten how to work with carbs. Get you r carb balance take off hose on the front pot while the carbs are off too.

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cybercarl wrote:I bet you have a nice parts washer too. You could of had them off by now, stripped down and in the washer. Marty will be putting you to shame at this rate. :biggrin :crazy: I think you have spent too much time wit FI and forgotten how to work with carbs. Get you r carb balance take off hose on the front pot while the carbs are off too.

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Parts washer, what's that :lol: no fancy modern workshop here, it's old skool, I use brake cleaner it works wonders and is cheap..
I've not forgotten how to work on carbs (it's been a while though) but they are a pia taking them on and off all the time, the race bikes were just jetted on the mains, no need for things like idle and low speed running. Fi is easier you haven't really got to do much with it.
Enthusiasm is the problem, when working on bikes a lot it can be difficult to motivate to work on my own, hence I don't want to mess about with this one, just going to ride it, I'm already doing more than I wanted to it.... And yes Marty is putting me to shame, especially with the amount he did yesterday.

Anyone got a spare adaptor to fit the vacuum take off, I've not got one and I'm not using one from my balancers, if someone's got a spare I'll run a length of hose, if not I'll balance them up and they shouldn't need doing again for a fair while anyway.
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I had 180 jets in mine
but after a dyno run I have know got 190`s
with k/n filter and two brothers exhausts
might have yto get it done again because I have now got remus cans
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I had 180 jets in mine
but after a dyno run I have know got 190`s
Dynojets not Keihin is what you most likely have there by the sounds of it. Totally different sizing scale and can't be compared, you'd probably find the 185 dynojets better than the 190's but we get ripped off in the UK and they don't come with our kits unlike the US kits. We don't get the springs either not that you would want them. I'm sure someone will be along to say "I run dynojet springs and my bike runs nice" yeh yeh yeh OK it runs nice whatever you say blah bla blah. They probably drill the extra slide hole too. :lol: Each to their own and all that.

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my mate gave me the 190`s
and he does the dyno runs
when we started it was way over on air and now its about right
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