Clutch cable / stiff
- Miztaziggy
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Clutch cable / stiff
Does the VTR have a clutch cable or is it hydraulic?
If it's a cable, does anyone know how to make the lever less stiff?
If the clutch cover is removed, does the bike dump oil everywhere or will the oil be below the level of the clutch when it's on the stand?
If it's a cable, does anyone know how to make the lever less stiff?
If the clutch cover is removed, does the bike dump oil everywhere or will the oil be below the level of the clutch when it's on the stand?

Re: Clutch cable / stiff
Clutch is hydraulic (though that's the highest level of help I can provide)
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You haven't bought a vtr have you? Buggers me if I don't want one again,little Beemer is great but would like more speed maybe SP2
Re: Clutch cable / stiff
Hydraulic clutch.Miztaziggy wrote:Does the VTR have a clutch cable or is it hydraulic?
If it's a cable, does anyone know how to make the lever less stiff?
If the clutch cover is removed, does the bike dump oil everywhere or will the oil be below the level of the clutch when it's on the stand?
I would imagine that the oil will need to be dropped to remove the clutch cover..but I have never done it so cant be 100% sure on that. Tony might know for sure...IIRC Bazza did his clutch at Wickys workshop day back in 2011, I know he had to drop the coolant out but can't remember if the oil was dropped as well.
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- carmanbikes
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Can't remember dropping the oil out of mine to do it
- lloydie
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Re: Clutch cable / stiff
if its on its side stand the oil wont need dropped only the coolant .
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Make sure the pushrod behind the slave cylinder moves freely!
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You should be able to remove the slave cylinder without dropping the oil or coolant.
Its the same setup as my vfr.
Undo the three bolts on slave cylinder and it comes away from the sprocket cover.
Roger
Its the same setup as my vfr.
Undo the three bolts on slave cylinder and it comes away from the sprocket cover.
Roger
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He wants to change the clutch...whole crank case cover on the other side has to come off...Not the sprocket cover...artee wrote:You should be able to remove the slave cylinder without dropping the oil or coolant.
Its the same setup as my vfr.
Undo the three bolts on slave cylinder and it comes away from the sprocket cover.
Roger

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My bad.MacV2 wrote:He wants to change the clutch...whole crank case cover on the other side has to come off...Not the sprocket cover...artee wrote:You should be able to remove the slave cylinder without dropping the oil or coolant.
Its the same setup as my vfr.
Undo the three bolts on slave cylinder and it comes away from the sprocket cover.
Roger
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But its an easy way to check clutch rod straightness.
Roger
Re: Clutch cable / stiff
First, check the lever, particularly the pivot. If worn it effectively moves the pivot point and makes the clutch feel heavy.
Next, (with the lever still off!) remove the three bolts holding the slave cylinder and remove it. Inspect the cylinder action, you'll have to put the lever on to check it and push it back in by hand- it should be smooth going in and out, and not take much effort to push in using just thumbs.
Check the fluid level in the reservoir...
If all ok, then you need to pull off the clutch cover.
Remove the water pump, draining the coolant, then you can undo the bolts around the clutch cover itself.
If the bike is left on its sidestand you won't need to drain the oil, but be careful as its easy to drop drips of coolant into the engine as you remove the clutch cover, and also don't forget that it is still connected to the engine via the ignition trigger wire, so have a stool or something of a suitable height for it to rest on after you've removed it.
Haynes suggests that in order to undo the clutch centre nut you can lock the primary drive gears using a stout piece of cloth- jeans or similar. But I think that is capable of damaging the bearings on the main and cranks shafts, so I'd recommend using a clutch locking tool which can be used to hold the clutch still against a footrest or other solid point. You have to un-stake the nut before getting a socket on it.....
The centre nut can usually be re-used- all you need to do is to tighten it a fraction more so that it has a different place for the staking part to be knocked over to lock it into place. But if you are concerned, buy a new one- they're only a few pounds.
Inspect and check all bearings.
Plates should be ok, they go sometimes but won't make the clutch heavier, just slip.
Next, (with the lever still off!) remove the three bolts holding the slave cylinder and remove it. Inspect the cylinder action, you'll have to put the lever on to check it and push it back in by hand- it should be smooth going in and out, and not take much effort to push in using just thumbs.
Check the fluid level in the reservoir...
If all ok, then you need to pull off the clutch cover.
Remove the water pump, draining the coolant, then you can undo the bolts around the clutch cover itself.
If the bike is left on its sidestand you won't need to drain the oil, but be careful as its easy to drop drips of coolant into the engine as you remove the clutch cover, and also don't forget that it is still connected to the engine via the ignition trigger wire, so have a stool or something of a suitable height for it to rest on after you've removed it.
Haynes suggests that in order to undo the clutch centre nut you can lock the primary drive gears using a stout piece of cloth- jeans or similar. But I think that is capable of damaging the bearings on the main and cranks shafts, so I'd recommend using a clutch locking tool which can be used to hold the clutch still against a footrest or other solid point. You have to un-stake the nut before getting a socket on it.....
The centre nut can usually be re-used- all you need to do is to tighten it a fraction more so that it has a different place for the staking part to be knocked over to lock it into place. But if you are concerned, buy a new one- they're only a few pounds.
Inspect and check all bearings.
Plates should be ok, they go sometimes but won't make the clutch heavier, just slip.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
- agentpineapple
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Re: Clutch cable / stiff
just don't do what I did and lift the bike upright forgetting that the clutch cover was off, end result was losing over a litre of engine oil....doh!!!
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