Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Hi guys
I purchased some manual ccts from Ade, along with the instructions, a little daunting lol.
Anyway I have called a number of motorrbie garages and all of them have said they would just be getting tdc and setting the manual tensioner to the same length as the auto one, they would not be removing cam covers etc!
Is this right? Surely all the garages can't be wrong or do they just have more experience.
Thanks
I purchased some manual ccts from Ade, along with the instructions, a little daunting lol.
Anyway I have called a number of motorrbie garages and all of them have said they would just be getting tdc and setting the manual tensioner to the same length as the auto one, they would not be removing cam covers etc!
Is this right? Surely all the garages can't be wrong or do they just have more experience.
Thanks
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
You pay your money you take your chance.. I remove the cam covers, that way i can be sure it's correct and i can measure the chain slack, I can also see if anyones been at it before and got the timing a tooth out. It takes about 3 hours to do the complete job, ride in ride out..
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2014 CRMC Post classic Superbike champion.
2014 CRMC Post classic senior production champion. On a Suzuki Katana 1100
My bikes, Firestorm, Suzuki GSX-s1000 Katana, VFR800Fi. Projects, 1986 popup Katana, 3 XJ600’s
Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
No this is not right. With an IL4 yes it would be fine but not a V2. It has to be At TDC on the compression stroke for total slack in the chain. If you happen to fall at TDC on the exhaust stroke then there is a good chance of the chain slipping as it will still be under some tension, on a V2 whereas on a IL4 there are more cylinders and valves to keep things in place and stop the cylinder moving.Is this right? Surely all the garages can't be wrong or do they just have more experience.
So yes I would say that all garages can get it wrong if they are not used to working on a V twin. Even Honda stealers themselves have been known to have got it wrong in the past. So basically it's like Popkat says "You pay your money you take your chance"
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Cam covers off is the way to go for fitting manual CCT's, and as Carl pointed out, each cylinder you are working on must be on the compression stroke at TDC. Also as Popkat mentions, it gives you the chance to check the valve timing while you're there with the cam covers off,
Chris.
Chris.
Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Try and find a forum member near to you to help get 'em fitted.
It may be that your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Thanks for the replies guys, it makes sense about the il4 remark, as 1 garage said they have done em on a cbr600.
I'm in Bristol, I've been on Facebook but no one seems to be near!
I'll keep looking thanks.
I'm in Bristol, I've been on Facebook but no one seems to be near!
I'll keep looking thanks.
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
I can give you one piece of advice. Bristol is not that far from Bideford. A nice morning ride and back.
Cheers
Don
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Don
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Bikes:
1977 Suzuki GS550/700 - modified significantly
1981 Moto Guzzi 850 T4
1990 Suzuki VX800
2003 Honda Firestorm VTR1000
Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Thanks for the offer mate but at the mo the bike is not mot'd due to being off the road for 2 yrs, everyone says I should change them before going anywhere!!!thunderbolt wrote:I can give you one piece of advice. Bristol is not that far from Bideford. A nice morning ride and back.
My bike is 41k and they don't look recently changed!
Thanks
VTR1000 Firestorm in yellow, lubbly jubbly.
Life's only Fun when your doing a Ton.
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
thunderbolt wrote:I can give you one piece of advice. Bristol is not that far from Bideford. A nice morning ride and back.
Good bit of advice that Don

Taz, put it in a van and bring it down to me.
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http://www.bidefordmotorcycles.co.uk
2014 CRMC Post classic Superbike champion.
2014 CRMC Post classic senior production champion. On a Suzuki Katana 1100
My bikes, Firestorm, Suzuki GSX-s1000 Katana, VFR800Fi. Projects, 1986 popup Katana, 3 XJ600’s
2014 CRMC Post classic Superbike champion.
2014 CRMC Post classic senior production champion. On a Suzuki Katana 1100
My bikes, Firestorm, Suzuki GSX-s1000 Katana, VFR800Fi. Projects, 1986 popup Katana, 3 XJ600’s
Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
What sort of price would it be chap?
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
A hell of a lot cheaper than repairing it aftyer it goes pop !Taz69 wrote:What sort of price would it be chap?
Making up since 2007, sometimes it's true...Honest...
Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Love itI can give you one piece of advice. Bristol is not that far from Bideford. A nice morning ride and back.

You wont find many people more capable than Popkat. If you want them done properly then you need someone who knows these bikes. Otherwise many folks have been successful following my guide in the links below. It's down to how competent you feel.
Oh...and you don't even need a van, AP and myself have had a VTR in back of a Black cab


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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Popkat is your best shot as he will be able to do it with his eyes closed and will have all the required tools.
Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
+1 On getting it by hook or crook to Popcat for MCCTs and pointers on what else will need doing to get it up and running better than new.
It may be that your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Re: Manual CCTs is there another way of fitting them?
Taz69 wrote:What sort of price would it be chap?
I've sent you a PM.
http://www.bidefordmotorcycles.co.uk
2014 CRMC Post classic Superbike champion.
2014 CRMC Post classic senior production champion. On a Suzuki Katana 1100
My bikes, Firestorm, Suzuki GSX-s1000 Katana, VFR800Fi. Projects, 1986 popup Katana, 3 XJ600’s
2014 CRMC Post classic Superbike champion.
2014 CRMC Post classic senior production champion. On a Suzuki Katana 1100
My bikes, Firestorm, Suzuki GSX-s1000 Katana, VFR800Fi. Projects, 1986 popup Katana, 3 XJ600’s