+ 2alanfjones1411 wrote:fabiostar wrote:well done the coppers who cleared these scumbags of the streets....
Plus one on that
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According to reports both Manchester and London attackers were tipped off to the anti-terrorist hotline with little result
"'They didn't get back to me'- A man who knew one of the London attackers says he reported him to the anti-terrorist hotline two years ago."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40080646 "The security service, which was alerted to Abedi's extremist views three times prior to last Monday's attack"
All good and well for folk to suggest blunt approach of mass round-ups and internment (last tried at outbreak WW2 and within a couple of years most were released from camps set-up in Isle of Man to contribute to allied war efforts) but if there isn't the police man power after funding cuts from Theresa May as Home Secretary since 2010 and PM tilll now - to even implement action from specific intel provided from individuals from within communities that could have averted events. Police have sufficient powers to detain suspects (What powers do the police have? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40152190 ) but all May seems intent on legislating that ISPs and internet companies to police the internet for dissent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 71896.html cos As again police cuts means a shortage / lack on investmentof specialist digital forensics experts etc http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37846705 .
Theresa May was warned by Manchester police officer (2 years ago) that cuts risked terror attack in the city > http://uk.businessinsider.com/theresa-m ... ?r=UK&IR=T
Terror watch lists: Can you keep tabs on every suspect? > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22718000
"'They didn't get back to me'- A man who knew one of the London attackers says he reported him to the anti-terrorist hotline two years ago."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40080646 "The security service, which was alerted to Abedi's extremist views three times prior to last Monday's attack"
All good and well for folk to suggest blunt approach of mass round-ups and internment (last tried at outbreak WW2 and within a couple of years most were released from camps set-up in Isle of Man to contribute to allied war efforts) but if there isn't the police man power after funding cuts from Theresa May as Home Secretary since 2010 and PM tilll now - to even implement action from specific intel provided from individuals from within communities that could have averted events. Police have sufficient powers to detain suspects (What powers do the police have? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40152190 ) but all May seems intent on legislating that ISPs and internet companies to police the internet for dissent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 71896.html cos As again police cuts means a shortage / lack on investmentof specialist digital forensics experts etc http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37846705 .
Theresa May was warned by Manchester police officer (2 years ago) that cuts risked terror attack in the city > http://uk.businessinsider.com/theresa-m ... ?r=UK&IR=T
Terror watch lists: Can you keep tabs on every suspect? > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22718000
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The mind boggles at the horror of this and even more so how we sort it all out...words fail me.
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that sums it up in one linepodman wrote:The mind boggles at the horror of this and even more so how we sort it all out...words fail me.
AMcQ
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You could start by banding together and not paying your Taxes to a Pissweak Governmentpodman wrote:The mind boggles at the horror of this and even more so how we sort it all out...words fail me.
Maybe they will take notices when normal everyday people literally stop supporting them until change is made.
I think it is disgusting you are raped hard earned money and you are not even offered a safe place to live.
You'd think that would be the first order of business!
3 out of 5 people are not the other 2.
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Although I agree, unfortunately these people are easily replaced with more like that and this does not get to the root of the problem.Stratman wrote:+ 2alanfjones1411 wrote:fabiostar wrote:well done the coppers who cleared these scumbags of the streets....
Plus one on that
Check the following links out
Makes me wonder how much the likes of the BBC do this kind of stuff too. Quite sickening really. I'm not very happy with the BBC news right now and how they kept repeating over and over again the same old same old footage....negativity, repeats of the incident and what's happened along with the same interviews for 24 hours non stop when they only played a short amount of something positive like the Manchester concert after it ended on the 10 o clock news the following day. Why did the concert not take the headline over the same old repeats of what happened the night before. It's as if they are trying to put hatred into everyone and then convince us all we need backdoors on things like Internet encryption. Brainwashing for an alternative political agenda possibly. I think it was entirely unnecessary to replay the the same negative footage and same interviews of the incident for 24 hours non stop. Where was the other news of other events going on in the world like sport news for example the TT or even other political events going on here and the rest of the world. Not everyone wants evil and negativity drilled into they heads constantly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LJX1tLGiRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXZzwwUVpWk
They even waned the White coppers out of the picture who you can see crossing out the way at the beginning.
There's a lot of manipulation going on and I don't know what to believe any more unless I see it with my own two eyes for myself. Take the guy on the ground with so called fake explosives around his waste. Zoom in on the dark out of focus image and they look like beer cans or smoke cannisters. For all we know they might have been placed there afterwards for the picture and make us all think one way or another. Lets face it the scene is not only cleared for public safety but to gather and/or create evidence too. I'm not saying they where but how do we know they where not.
Terrible incident and what makes it worse we cant even believe 100% what we are told or shown.
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I don't know about the BBC but over here we are not allowed to believe the evidence of our eyes. The media must filter everything so that you get their version of the truth. They are mistaken in their believe that people trust them. They don't and any trust they used to have is slipping away.VTRDark wrote:Terrible incident and what makes it worse we cant even believe 100% what we are told or shown.
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The clip posted by VTRDark is a staged 'fake' news piece by CNN to bolster the narrative. Mainstream media is completely controlled.
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Heck wedding photographers, Rembrandt and photojounalists try to set the compostion - why the tinfoil hat that's it all staged when covering a demo unless its a riot...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Gol ... pagnie.jpg
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photo ... ichardson/
Take command. Fear not (or at least, show no fear). Everyone expects that someone else in charge of this mess. Step up to the plate. Rise above the fray (literally) if you can. A step ladder is a quite good bully pulpit, and a commanding voice will generally bring the rabble to attention. Become the focal point of activity and half the battle is won.
Organize the bodies. Think ahead about the physical layout you want for the picture. Then figure out an efficient way to line everyone up or move them around. Old time group photographers used to put a chalk line on the ground. When the group arrived they would tell everyone to stand on the chalk line. Simple. You can try putting a row of chairs where you want them (thinking about composition), then grab the first folks to arrive and tell them to please sit down. As more arrive ask them to fill in behind (and NOT to go beyond either end of the row of chairs.) Then grab a few of younger, spry ones and ask them to sit on the ground up front.
Recruit co-conspirators. Find a couple of folks to help you on the ground. For instance, the crowd will just naturally want to spill out too far on either side. So grab two people and put them at each end of the line where you want your group. Just say “Stand here and don’t let anybody go outside of you, OK?”
“Build” a composition. If the group isn’t too large (fewer than a dozen, perhaps) you can often build a more relaxed grouping. Start by select one or two people as the centerpiece (Grandma and Grandpa?) and put them in a central position. Then start adding people, one by one, in around them. Take people gently by the arm, if you have to, and move them where you want them. Don’t expect everyone to just sort of fill in naturally.
Try subdividing. Some groups naturally lend themselves to subdividing, gathering smaller arrangements of two, three, or four people together within the larger scene. This can add visual variety and make things look much less stuffy. (And not everyone has to stand directly facing the camera. Have a few folks stand sideways, then turn their heads to the camera.)
Try a different angle. Getting above a group is a marvelous way to see everyone’s face. Just make sure they really get their chins up and look you straight in the face.
Move quickly. You won’t keep the group’s attention forever so have everything in readiness. Camera focused, exposure checked, lighting checked.
Talk to them constantly! As long as you are talking they will pay attention to you. If you stop talking then little conversations will break out, and then full-fledged laughter and debates. By then you’re lost. Keep up a little chatter and you’ll stay in charge.
Make it fun. A little zaniness on your part will go a long way toward easing the atmosphere.
Play the maestro. When it comes time to snap the picture, change the tempo and take command. Make eye contact. (I like to have the camera on a tripod so I don’t have to be looking through the viewfinder.) Raise your arm like you are ready for the downbeat and say something like “OK, everybody, we’re ready.” (And be ready.)
Tell them what you want them to do. Remember at this critical moment that all those folks have any idea of what’s happening unless you tell them. I like to be really, really plain. I say, “OK, look at me, look at me, don’t blink, eyes open, look at me, don’t blink” while I snap away. The best way to get everybody’s eyes open is to take several pictures. If you need to make adjustments then tell them so. I say, “Don’t go anywhere, but you can relax for a moment.” Ideally, once I get them in position l like the picture to be over and done in 30 seconds.
Try something different. Before you let them go take one more. Maybe you can ask everyone to give you a BIG wave or throw their arms in the air (assuming you aren’t photographing the Supreme Court justices).
Disband the crowd (and grab one more). Keep your finger on the shutter when you say “Thank you everyone.” Very often the pleasant confusion of the breakup is interesting in itself. Sport teams are particularly likely to come to life in the moment when everyone is being released.
"The Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. John Prescott, the former deputy leader of Labour, tweeted on Thursday night that he had heard from a “very good source” that Murdoch had “stormed out” of the Times election party after seeing the exit poll on Thursday night, which predicted that the Conservatives would fail to win a majority."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ion-gamble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Gol ... pagnie.jpg
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photo ... ichardson/
Take command. Fear not (or at least, show no fear). Everyone expects that someone else in charge of this mess. Step up to the plate. Rise above the fray (literally) if you can. A step ladder is a quite good bully pulpit, and a commanding voice will generally bring the rabble to attention. Become the focal point of activity and half the battle is won.
Organize the bodies. Think ahead about the physical layout you want for the picture. Then figure out an efficient way to line everyone up or move them around. Old time group photographers used to put a chalk line on the ground. When the group arrived they would tell everyone to stand on the chalk line. Simple. You can try putting a row of chairs where you want them (thinking about composition), then grab the first folks to arrive and tell them to please sit down. As more arrive ask them to fill in behind (and NOT to go beyond either end of the row of chairs.) Then grab a few of younger, spry ones and ask them to sit on the ground up front.
Recruit co-conspirators. Find a couple of folks to help you on the ground. For instance, the crowd will just naturally want to spill out too far on either side. So grab two people and put them at each end of the line where you want your group. Just say “Stand here and don’t let anybody go outside of you, OK?”
“Build” a composition. If the group isn’t too large (fewer than a dozen, perhaps) you can often build a more relaxed grouping. Start by select one or two people as the centerpiece (Grandma and Grandpa?) and put them in a central position. Then start adding people, one by one, in around them. Take people gently by the arm, if you have to, and move them where you want them. Don’t expect everyone to just sort of fill in naturally.
Try subdividing. Some groups naturally lend themselves to subdividing, gathering smaller arrangements of two, three, or four people together within the larger scene. This can add visual variety and make things look much less stuffy. (And not everyone has to stand directly facing the camera. Have a few folks stand sideways, then turn their heads to the camera.)
Try a different angle. Getting above a group is a marvelous way to see everyone’s face. Just make sure they really get their chins up and look you straight in the face.
Move quickly. You won’t keep the group’s attention forever so have everything in readiness. Camera focused, exposure checked, lighting checked.
Talk to them constantly! As long as you are talking they will pay attention to you. If you stop talking then little conversations will break out, and then full-fledged laughter and debates. By then you’re lost. Keep up a little chatter and you’ll stay in charge.
Make it fun. A little zaniness on your part will go a long way toward easing the atmosphere.
Play the maestro. When it comes time to snap the picture, change the tempo and take command. Make eye contact. (I like to have the camera on a tripod so I don’t have to be looking through the viewfinder.) Raise your arm like you are ready for the downbeat and say something like “OK, everybody, we’re ready.” (And be ready.)
Tell them what you want them to do. Remember at this critical moment that all those folks have any idea of what’s happening unless you tell them. I like to be really, really plain. I say, “OK, look at me, look at me, don’t blink, eyes open, look at me, don’t blink” while I snap away. The best way to get everybody’s eyes open is to take several pictures. If you need to make adjustments then tell them so. I say, “Don’t go anywhere, but you can relax for a moment.” Ideally, once I get them in position l like the picture to be over and done in 30 seconds.
Try something different. Before you let them go take one more. Maybe you can ask everyone to give you a BIG wave or throw their arms in the air (assuming you aren’t photographing the Supreme Court justices).
Disband the crowd (and grab one more). Keep your finger on the shutter when you say “Thank you everyone.” Very often the pleasant confusion of the breakup is interesting in itself. Sport teams are particularly likely to come to life in the moment when everyone is being released.
Then why did Murdoch apparently storm out if he's got things all under control"Mainstream media is completely controlled."
"The Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. John Prescott, the former deputy leader of Labour, tweeted on Thursday night that he had heard from a “very good source” that Murdoch had “stormed out” of the Times election party after seeing the exit poll on Thursday night, which predicted that the Conservatives would fail to win a majority."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ion-gamble
davebonline wrote:The clip posted by VTRDark is a staged 'fake' news piece by CNN to bolster the narrative. Mainstream media is completely controlled.
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It's not a genuine demonstration though, it's being staged.
The MSM has been caught staging many events/demos/protests etc. They're getting quite a reputation for it
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How was it staged? Aren't they muslim mothers but rather actors? is it like the moon landings? as suggested by Trump alt-right conspiracy theorists
CNN is on heat again a behind-the-scenes video which suggests that reporter Becky Anderson tried to set up a live shot in London that would make Muslims look sympathetic following last night’s terror attacks.
Becky Anderson’s segment focused on a group of “Muslim Mothers” who held up signs in support of London and in condemnation of ISIS.
CNN Provide the Following Statement about this video:
“This story is nonsense. The group of demonstrators that was at the police cordon was being allowed through by officers so they could show their signs to the gathered media. The CNN crew along with other media present simply filmed them doing so.”
Damn this means VTR workshop days are all a staged conspiracyit's being staged.
davebonline wrote:It's not a genuine demonstration though, it's being staged.
The MSM has been caught staging many events/demos/protests etc. They're getting quite a reputation for it
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Fact or fiction? - Lord Buckethead and Lady Buckethead enjoying a wild night out in Maidenhead
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No tinfoil hats here. Do a little research.
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You've asserted the demonstration was fake then please show how - and please no tinfoil hat alt-right utoob vids as the claim originated from Gateway Pundit conspiracy theory website, which in turn was twittered by Donald Trump Jr. and repeated by Daily Mail columnist Katie Hopkins*.davebonline wrote:No tinfoil hats here. Do a little research.
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*Gobshite Hopkins has a history of anti-Muslim and nativist rhetoric. Hopkins has repeatedly defamed Muslims and immigrants and once compared refugees to “cockroaches” and suggested using “gunships to stop migrants” crossing into Europe after hundreds died when a boat capsized off the coast of Libya. Hopkins was once investigated by police “over allegations she incited racial hatred” and denounced by the United Nations high commissioner for human rights. Additionally, following the London attack, Hopkins suggested that the U.K. “need internment camps” for suspected terrorists. Hopkins also lost a costly high court case for making defamatory comments to poverty campaigner and food blogger Jack Monroe. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 23636.htmlBehind the scenes footage of the photo-op was filmed and uploaded to Twitter by the “alt-right” follower @markantro who said it showed “CNN creating the narrative.”
Leading figures of the self-styled “alt-right” ideological movement mixing racism, white nationalism, conspiracy theories, and misogyny seized on the footage. Conspiracy theorist Mike Cernovich, and the conspiracy theory website Infowars’ founder Alex Jones, cast it as a staged event showing Muslims expressing fake sadness and concern after the attack.
Cernovich and Jones offered $3,500 to the “citizen journalist” for the footage. Both men and the Gateway Pundit outlet shared by Trump are part of the alt-right movement in the U.S. President Trump has also endorsed and spread content from alt-right media outlets.
Let me help you http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/
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Haha, Snopes!
https://medicalkidnap.com/2017/01/05/sn ... -industry/
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