podman wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:03 pmThought I owed the Triumph Speed triple a test ride and comparison to the MT10 and S1000R, so I took one out for an hour or so this morning.sirch345 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:09 pmAn interesting read that, good to hear your opinion on the two bikes.podman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:27 pm
Finally managed to take a S1000 R Sport out today for an hour-ish.
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I was pretty much convinced I was going for the Yamaha but after today I think the "better" bike is *maybe* the BMW.
Was a few weeks ago I rode the MT but by chance, the BMW dealer had a secondhand MT in stock to make a comparison with.
The S1000 felt lighter, handled better(lighter steering and a quicker turn in, felt more a sportsbike ) and had way better initial bite and feel from the brakes.
The engine felt buzzy and vibey at 80-90ish but super smooth elsewhere, the throttle wasnt as snatchy as the MT and it felt quite a bit faster, maybe it just has more of revvy, top end feel and doesnt really make any more HP(MT 160 claimed Vs the BMWs 165) but it seemed more vivid acceleration wise.
Looks are subjective, some areas of the BMW look better than the MT and Vs versa, ill call that a draw.
I thought the BMW Sport was better value(£12,000) when you look at the electrical wizardry it has compared to the base MT10 and equaling ( I think?) the SP at what, £13,500-£14,000? I was also offered a stonking deal on the BMW and the local Yamaha dealer is, well, a bit of a miserable b'std to be honest.
Character is a hard thing to define and I can see why some people criticise the BMW over the MT for that as its "another IL4" but is a snatchy throttle Vs a smooth one annoying or "character"?
Apart from the awesome noise and instant wheelies of the MT, it has no advantage, the BMW offers no lack of fun, it drives hard from very low RPM in any gear and with both the up/down quickshifter, made some great noises whilst working...
The MT is slighly more upright with a little more leg room but the BMW certainly wasnt uncomfortable.
Mmmm....in a bit of a dilema now aint I........! The other curve ball is a like my luggage nowadays and the Sport doesnt seem to cater so well for the traveler, MT10 touring could be more suitable for my needs! Aggghhhhh!
Good luck in making a decision, it looks like you're going to need it
Chris.
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IMHO its the best looking and finished of the super nakeds and I would have loved to have bought British, unfortunately, for my tastes, it has the worse dash, fiddly switch gear and by far and away the worse gear box.
No quick shifter on the base model either.(£375 plus fitting costs extra).
It has a slight top heavy feel and the has, compared to the other two and previous bikes ive owned, a sensation when cornering at low/medium speeds that the back takes a fraction or two to follow the front on line, im sure its something you would get used to but its defintley more road bike than the other two. It has enough wallop in the motor but it offers less bottom end than the MT , nor the vivid top end of the BMW.
Not particularly overwhelming or inspirational...nor as much of a fun bike.
The real kicker is, the base model offers less kit than an MT10 for around the same price and a shed load less than the BMW for £700 less....and Triumphs daft PCP finance rates meants it costs £40-50 a month more for less bike..
You'd have to be really committed to the brand or not test rode any of the other 2 to buy one in my opinion.
I think the BMW will hold its value better too. I actually didn't like but do now ive seen it, is the new Honda CB1000R. not so much poke though. The diaval was good. Until I tried the VFR
