Project Blue Belle

[StormyRob]

Couldn't have said it better myself Paul. This forum is fantastic. I chat to a few from here outside the forum too. Everyone has been fantastic. I believe I will have a bike similar to the one I had originally planned(moriwaki stuff excluded!) . Yea it has cost me but it wouldn't be possible if not for the help and advice I have received from people here.

Onwards and upwards

[Pla3108]

Credit to monkeymatt for this pic.



I discussed this with a couple of guys that are endlessly helping me out. I will be going for a powder coated version but ideally it will look pretty similar. Should be there in the next week or so.

That arms fantastic!
God this is going to cost me a fortune

[VTR Phoenix]

Now you've gone and opened up a whole can of worms pla3108

[StormyRob]

That arm belongs to YETI. Still missing in action...

[bigr250]

Credit to monkeymatt for this pic.



I discussed this with a couple of guys that are endlessly helping me out. I will be going for a powder coated version but ideally it will look pretty similar. Should be there in the next week or so.

That arms fantastic!
God this is going to cost me a fortune

Not necessarily a fortune, I bought a 1998 Fireblade arm for £28 & a Blade calliper & bracket for £30 and I'm sure they could both have been bought for less. I've gone for the blade calliper to save cutting the brace down, this way it should look a bit more 'factory' once completed. The only extra work will be removing the calliper guides from both and welding the blade one inside the Firestorm arm & if I do all the cutting and grinding I should have a finished braced Firestorm arm for less than £80 after the cost of welding. Only thing left will be the decision to either polish, powder coat or paint.

[E.Marquez]

And old thread with a lot of bad feelings so I hate to bring it back around....
BUT I wanted to ask, am I reading this right.. The Mario fairing molds went to someone in Wales, and from there this Matt guy got them, but never actually made any fairings to be delivered?

Did I get that right from what i read, its confirmed the Mario mods were in Matts possession last known?

[StormyRob]

And old thread with a lot of bad feelings so I hate to bring it back around....
BUT I wanted to ask, am I reading this right.. The Mario fairing molds went to someone in Wales, and from there this Matt guy got them, but never actually made any fairings to be delivered?

Did I get that right from what i read, its confirmed the Mario mods were in Matts possession last known?

If I am not mistaken they actually belonged to Ian Mercer but Matt had them. I think Ian eventually got them back so maybe worth a shout on Facebook Erik

[VTRDark]

I belive your right Rob.
SINGLE SEAT UNIT`s & BODYWORK KITS

[Wicky]

That was 2016 -

This post is from 2017 from Yeti > viewtopic.php?f=41&t=38236&p=437008&hil ... en#p437008

Goodness knows where the moulds are now after the sorry saga. Hopefully Ian / Yeti can clarify what the current situation is with the whereabouts of the Mario moulds.

All I know is that I made Ian / Yeti some logos / pics for 'Bespoke Carbon' in late 2015 which was used on a now defunct facebook page before things went awry.



Oh what a tangled web...

[mario1962]

Hello everybody

I am Mario Nava.
I sold the moulds to the wales guys, Mike Tanski, a very nice person, who came to my house to see and get the moulds.
After then I know he sold everything to mr Ian Mercer. I don't know anything, beside this.
Reading the main Post I see there is someone (Yety) who writes about fairing and tail developed. Looking at the Tail, and expecially at the part who makes the removable seat, I can tell that this came out from our "ex" moulds.
After the sale I forwarded all the emails that I received, and still receive, from people asking about the kit.
I forwared emails to Mike, first, then to Ian.
Anyway I NEVER received any kind of reply from Ian Mercer.
Email did not bounce back so I assume the email address was correct.
I mailed him a couple of time asking for a reply, few days ago. No luck.
As I received an email from another guy interested I would like to know who can build the fairing so I can forward him the emails.
If you wish, I don't check forums often, you can mail me directly. I would appreciate.

Thank you very much.

Mario Nava
Ps, Happy Easter.

[MacV2]

Hello everybody

I am Mario Nava.
I sold the moulds to the wales guys, Mike Tanski, a very nice person, who came to my house to see and get the moulds.
After then I know he sold everything to mr Ian Mercer. I don't know anything, beside this.
Reading the main Post I see there is someone (Yety) who writes about fairing and tail developed. Looking at the Tail, and expecially at the part who makes the removable seat, I can tell that this came out from our "ex" moulds.
After the sale I forwarded all the emails that I received, and still receive, from people asking about the kit.
I forwared emails to Mike, first, then to Ian.
Anyway I NEVER received any kind of reply from Ian Mercer.
Email did not bounce back so I assume the email address was correct.
I mailed him a couple of time asking for a reply, few days ago. No luck.
As I received an email from another guy interested I would like to know who can build the fairing so I can forward him the emails.
If you wish, I don't check forums often, you can mail me directly. I would appreciate.

Thank you very much.

Mario Nava
Ps, Happy Easter.

Mario nice to hear from you, Yeti is Ian Mercer, I will contact him on FaceBook & link this post to him. Hopefully he will respond directly to you.

[MacV2]

Hello everybody

I am Mario Nava.
I sold the moulds to the wales guys, Mike Tanski, a very nice person, who came to my house to see and get the moulds.
After then I know he sold everything to mr Ian Mercer. I don't know anything, beside this.
Reading the main Post I see there is someone (Yety) who writes about fairing and tail developed. Looking at the Tail, and expecially at the part who makes the removable seat, I can tell that this came out from our "ex" moulds.
After the sale I forwarded all the emails that I received, and still receive, from people asking about the kit.
I forwared emails to Mike, first, then to Ian.
Anyway I NEVER received any kind of reply from Ian Mercer.
Email did not bounce back so I assume the email address was correct.
I mailed him a couple of time asking for a reply, few days ago. No luck.
As I received an email from another guy interested I would like to know who can build the fairing so I can forward him the emails.
If you wish, I don't check forums often, you can mail me directly. I would appreciate.

Thank you very much.

Mario Nava
Ps, Happy Easter.

Mario nice to hear from you, Yeti is Ian Mercer, I will contact him on FaceBook & link this post to him. Hopefully he will respond directly to you.

[YETI]

Unfortunately this has raised its ugly head again .
It Makes me sick just thinking about it let alone reading it all back ( which I just have ) if I'm totally honest .
A lot of guys got ripped off by that Matt Greenall and for obvious reasons I was dragged through the muddy wake too ( which was my own stupid fault for being so bloody trusting ) .
I've barely had anything made from those moulds since I had the broken remains repaired after forcing that piece of crap to give them back by quite literally threatening to do him some serious physical damage ! .
I totally lost heart in the whole project and I've lost countless ! orders over the years because I just couldn't face someone not being 100% happy or the possibility of an order going missing and then have to deal with the resulting unhappy customer ( better to just not supply seemed the easier option ) I think I've supplied 2 or maybe 3 seat units ( under duress ) in all those years and just 2 fairings one was sold at cost price very recently to a very good friend and made especially for her , the other one was made for me and sat on my spare bike for about 2yrs and then sold off for less than cost price as i just didnt want it .
I had people I classed as friends as far away as Australia doubt my honesty in actually being able to supply fairings and seats and that really hurt ! As im 100% honest and would never take money off anyone unless i could supply either parts or these fairings and seat units , I have 2 guys in America right now wanting fairings and wanting to pay but I just can't do it even though I know 100% that I can supply a top class product very easily .
As some of you may know I'm building myself a bit of a special and was planning on using the moulds to make my fairings / in fact I had several sets made including paying to adapt one mould to make race fairings but I'm torn as to whether I will actually use them as this saga has left a HUGE bitter taste in my mouth and I struggle to even look at them knowing how people were treated because of my stupidity in letting myself get involved with that butt wipe .
To say it affected me deeply is an understatement , I had big plans for those moulds and realised none of them .
To anyone who was affected directly or indirectly I humbly apologise .
Ian ...... yeti .

[Kev L]

Ian,

As far as I remember there was no negativity concerning you, just the other bloke. I can fully appreciate why you would feel wronged by the whole saga, but I for one accepted your version of events, which echoed Rob's story if I recall correctly.
It's a real pity for Mario that the work he put in to the initial development of these products has stalled but fully understandable given the circumstances.
I hope you come to accept the situation, realise that anyone who knows you wouldn't distrust you, and maybe get to a place where the option of producing some of the items becomes viable for you. The VTR is still a very popular bike and fewer aftermarket bits are out there.

Good luck fella

[mario1962]

Hello everybody,

I am so sad to know that ended this way. Very sad to know that someone, without any skill, broke the moulds.
We proudly built and sold dozens all over the world fom Australia to USA during many years.
Then unfortunately we had to stop.
I hoped that someone could continue to duild and I forwarded all the emails I got, and still get (the last one a couple of days ago).
I was just a bit disappointed as I never got any reply. Did you get all my email, Ian?
Do you want I still forward you what I receive?

Let me know.

Many thanks, Mac V2, for your help.

Mario Nava

EDIT
To be fair. I understood it's not Ian's fault, that caused the the damage to the moulds.
Ian, please mail me and let me know what I should do about the emails I still receive.