piss takers on ebay

SKETTY · Post by **SKETTY** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:05 am

don't it really piss you off when bidding on ebay. i was the only bidder for a firestorm frame at 99p and just before the auction ended the seller removed it probably because it had'nt reached a price that they wanted but there reason to ebay was that it was lost or broken. bet its on again in the future but with a reserve price next time.

Post by **sirch345** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:45 am

Yes I agree it does annoy you when a seller pulls an item from the auction. But on the other hand as much as you would have been over the moon to have bought that frame for 99p + p&p, (lets face it, we all like a bargain) had you been the seller you definitely wouldn't have been.

IMHO the seller should have put a reserve on it to stop that from happening, also if you're really genuine about a purchase a realistic bid from you would more than likely stop that happening too

Only my thoughts.

Chris.

SKETTY · Post by **SKETTY** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:21 pm

sirch345 wrote:Yes I agree it does annoy you when a seller pulls an item from the auction. But on the other hand as much as you would have been over the moon to have bought that frame for 99p + p&p, (lets face it, we all like a bargain) had you been the seller you definitely wouldn't have been.

IMHO the seller should have put a reserve on it to stop that from happening, also if you're really genuine about a purchase a realistic bid from you would more than likely stop that happening too Only my thoughts.

Chris.

i am a genuine buyer and my bid was Â£100 but because he had a start price of 99p and i was the only bidder the price automatically stays at 99p. a higher starting price or resevre would of been better.
i have just put 1 of me cars on ebay with a starting bid of Â£800 with no reserve after that. this is the lowest i will take for it so i dont see the point of putting a start price at 1p or Â£1 it does'nt make sence

marravtr · Post by **marravtr** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:38 pm

done the same with a load of cbr spares ive got on there at the mo mate, starting price is the min i'll take, people do the 99p price as they think it'll make more interest, but no one bids till the last min these days anyway so cant see the point

Post by **sirch345** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:39 pm

SKETTY wrote:
i am a genuine buyer and my bid was Â£100 but because he had a start price of 99p and i was the only bidder the price automatically stays at 99p. a higher starting price or resevre would of been better.
i have just put 1 of me cars on ebay with a starting bid of Â£800 with no reserve after that. this is the lowest i will take for it so i dont see the point of putting a start price at 1p or Â£1 it does'nt make sence

That's fair enough I would say if you were prepared to pay Â£100 for it. You were obviously expecting some last minute bidders to step in near the end.
As we've both said a reserve would have been better, or like you say even a higher starting price could have helped.

I usually do the same as you, no reserve but a starting price of the lowest I would accept.

Good luck with the car, I hope it's better than the frame,

Chris.

Beamish · Post by **Beamish** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:44 pm

Report the bugger! Thats the main reason ebay is popular (chance of nabbing a bargain) he has broken the law unless he states it is advertised elsewhere and can be removed at any time.

Hankie · Post by **Hankie** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:25 pm

Ebay will do precisely... nothing.

Chris

Seeker 77 · Post by **Seeker 77** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:37 pm

Hankie · Post by **Hankie** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:22 pm

Story time: I used to have a fairly big website where I had pics of astro telescopes and bits I made for sale. A couple of pages showed and described what was then my main telescope (a 10" Meade LX200). Suprised one day to see MY OWN telescope offered for sale on ebay, complete with pictures, and a link to a Yahoo website where I found a good sized section of my own site had been copied with a claim it belonged to the seller. The guy had done it to offer additional info and enhance his chances of making a 'sale'. It was a scam.

I pointed this out to ebay, giving them my own URL, and to Yahoo. Neither would do anything at first. Yahoo asked me for a written letter (i.e. snailmail and personally signed) defending my copywrite claim, which I sent immediately. They emailed me back after two weeks saying the 'wording' of my objection was incorrect despite my following their instructions to the letter. They never removed the website. Ebay did nothing so to protect honest bidders I placed a bid of 1 million pounds for my own scope, told them what I'd done and that they could f*cking sue me for non-payment. Eventually they withdrew the item - but not before many bids had been placed by hopeful buyers and it was near the end of the auction. I never got a reply from ebay.

Chris

chuxsta · Post by **chuxsta** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:27 pm

Hankie wrote:Story time: I used to have a fairly big website where I had pics of astro telescopes and bits I made for sale. A couple of pages showed and described what was then my main telescope (a 10" Meade LX200). Suprised one day to see MY OWN telescope offered for sale on ebay, complete with pictures, and a link to a Yahoo website where I found a good sized section of my own site had been copied with a claim it belonged to the seller. The guy had done it to offer additional info and enhance his chances of making a 'sale'. It was a scam.

I pointed this out to ebay, giving them my own URL, and to Yahoo. Neither would do anything at first. Yahoo asked me for a written letter (i.e. snailmail and personally signed) defending my copywrite claim, which I sent immediately. They emailed me back after two weeks saying the 'wording' of my objection was incorrect despite my following their instructions to the letter. They never removed the website. Ebay did nothing so to protect honest bidders I placed a bid of 1 million pounds for my own scope, told them what I'd done and that they could f*cking sue me for non-payment. Eventually they withdrew the item - but not before many bids had been placed by hopeful buyers and it was near the end of the auction. I never got a reply from ebay.

Chris

that sucks monkey elbow mud!!!!

considering i have had 2 or 3 sales withdrawn due to some sort of breach on a policy filed by some one.... ebay took them off and warned me not to do it again...

when the items, photos and entire advert was 100% genuine.

and then when its for real in your case they do jack sh1t....

cupasoop · Post by **cupasoop** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:34 pm

What to do in that situation Hankie (and has been seen on fleabay before) is to replace the images on your website with some extremely hardcore porny ones with the same name so they show up on his advert. See how long his ad lasts then.

Hankie · Post by **Hankie** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:03 pm

Wouldn't have worked in this case, the clever chappie had actually downloaded the files and placed copies on Yahoo - they were not links to my site. It wasn't me who spotted this scam - it was another astronomer who emailed me about the ebay listing.

Chris

Squiffythewombat · Post by **Squiffythewombat** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:02 pm

Hankie wrote:Story time: I used to have a fairly big website where I had pics of astro telescopes and bits I made for sale. A couple of pages showed and described what was then my main telescope (a 10" Meade LX200). Suprised one day to see MY OWN telescope offered for sale on ebay, complete with pictures, and a link to a Yahoo website where I found a good sized section of my own site had been copied with a claim it belonged to the seller. The guy had done it to offer additional info and enhance his chances of making a 'sale'. It was a scam.

I pointed this out to ebay, giving them my own URL, and to Yahoo. Neither would do anything at first. Yahoo asked me for a written letter (i.e. snailmail and personally signed) defending my copywrite claim, which I sent immediately. They emailed me back after two weeks saying the 'wording' of my objection was incorrect despite my following their instructions to the letter. They never removed the website. Ebay did nothing so to protect honest bidders I placed a bid of 1 million pounds for my own scope, told them what I'd done and that they could f*cking sue me for non-payment. Eventually they withdrew the item - but not before many bids had been placed by hopeful buyers and it was near the end of the auction. I never got a reply from ebay.

Chris

dammit...i was gonna make loads off that scope

Having run several ebay stores and ecommerce websites im afraid this is very commonplace. The best bet is watermarking your images and adding some java script that means they cant right click (although this looks naff it works).

Personally i agree with the bid 1,000,000 each time its on there using different accounts.

Had a similar thing (actually people on here may remmber) when a few of us storm members bought "bike to bike radios" which turned out to be crappy walkie talkies....several sellers emailed him and nothing happened. A quick thread on BCF and loads of people were spamming his auctions and his shop telephone..within 2 or 3 days we ALL had refunds and got to keep the pile of crud radios.....i think, chris, your 110% right, as far as ebay is concerned its all about citizens policing it...a real pity!

RedStormV · Post by **RedStormV** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:09 pm

Squiffythewombat wrote: The best bet is watermarking your images and adding some java script that means they cant right click (although this looks naff it works).!

I'd agree with the watermarking Toby, but programmes like ZapGrab etc easily get round the right click java script. Used it my self loads of times but not on copyright material.

Same with these rip off ringtone sites that let you listen to the tone in full, but if you download the wav or MP3 then listen to it, there's voiceovers about buying the tone. There's a whole host of progs out there that will record anything that's played on your pc then allow you to edit it after.

There's also the question of things being in the public domain via t'internet - very grey area I reckon.

Beamish · Post by **Beamish** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:30 pm

Agreed Hankie but I know of other traders that have had knuckles wrapped for small offences. Gotta try the official channels before going medieval on there ass