paint code question

budd · Post by **budd** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:35 pm

Had a bad few days today, fridaay I changed the fork oil no issues there however when I removed the front paddock stand I left the spacer thing in the headsock which promply fell out on the test ride and smashed the front mud guard DOH!! then today I had siily little tip off resulting in a broken O/S fairing,double DOH!!! it's mendable nit of plastic welding and some paint, and that's my question re paint, what's the paint code for a yellow '96 MY bike ? is there a sticker or similar on the bike somewhere to indicate the correct shade? I know that later bikes have a paler tone to the earlier bikes so I obviously need the very first tone of yellow, does anyone know where to find the code or indeed what the code is?

benny hedges · Post by **benny hedges** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:41 pm

the paint code sticker is attached to the subframe under the seat.

it's a little white tag that says Y 124 - p as far as i know..

there are 2 different yellows used depending on the year.
i dont have a yellow bike but someone will confirm, or look under the seat...
halfords will mix you some 400ml rattlers for 12.99, or any decent paintshop.

Miztaziggy · Post by **Miztaziggy** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:44 pm

Y124p

Just had mine done the same.

The halfords match is good, not exact though. I did a hugger which was fine, but if you're just doing one side of a fairing, get an exact match from Honda or a proper paint supplier.

budd · Post by **budd** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:00 pm

thanks for the replies, looks like y124p is the winner I'll have a look under the seat to make sure (if the sticker is on the subframe then it's probably gone as I painted the subby kast winter) I don't want a rattle can but some 2K base and clear , however it looks like it's a 3 stage paint system special primer/ undercoat, then colour base and finally clear coat, can anyone confirm this , cheers

benny hedges · Post by **benny hedges** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:07 pm

yes it is a 3 stage, thats why the 1 pack rattler isnt a perfect match.

budd · Post by **budd** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:31 pm

cheers I'll see if my paint supplier can mix the specific undercoat and the colour basecoat for me, I'm assuming normal 2k clear will be OK on top

Ilson Lad · Post by **Ilson Lad** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:50 pm

Excuse my ignorance lads, but do the likes of Halfords only need the paint code off the bike to mix up some paint?

budd · Post by **budd** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:26 am

Ilson Lad wrote:Excuse my ignorance lads, but do the likes of Halfords only need the paint code off the bike to mix up some paint?

I don't know whether halfords do 'mixed' colours or just a range of common colour rattle cans but I suspect honda y124p won't be a a stocked item.
And that's not a fault of halfords there's no way they can carry every paint type., may hope is that my local paint suppier will be able to mix me 1/2 a litre in 2K and I can get it painted.
although there\s no rush as we're off to the Manx GP on friday so I guess I'll sort it when we get back.

benny hedges · Post by **benny hedges** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:12 am

Ilson Lad wrote:Excuse my ignorance lads, but do the likes of Halfords only need the paint code off the bike to mix up some paint?

yes they can mix up paints to almost any code and make them up in rattlers, touch up pens or a tin for your airbrush / gun.
dont forget to tell them its a honda bike!

Ilson Lad · Post by **Ilson Lad** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:41 am

Cheers! Thats good to know

budd · Post by **budd** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:15 pm

my local motor factors are mixing me 1/2 litre of 2K, using the colour code from the main dealers which is Y-124p and rerquires a white undercoat, had a little trouble finding the colour on the sandox system at first it didn't recognise it when we entered y124p but sorted it now as it requires a dash between the Y and the 1 so it reads Y-124p, so if anyone requires a colur making up remember the dash or it won't come up .

budd · Post by **budd** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:42 am

Ok I've repaired and re-painterd the O/S fairing panel, however the colour I had mixed Y-124p isn't a perfect match, it's not quite as 'rich' see pic

I'm wandering if A they haven't mixed the colour right, B the code is wrong for a v early bike circa 1996 or C the base / ground coat of white isn't correct and a different ground coat would change the tint of the colour base coat.

I'm off to the Manx GP on fri and would have liked it spot on for that but it looks like i'll be leaving it as is till we get back.
So anyone any thoughts on this? I prefer the orginal shade to the more 'lemon' one I now have and I'd don't really want to paint the whole bike although I may have to if I can't find a better colour match, any thoughts welcome.

PS where's the best place to get replacement VTR stickers?

Post by **sirch345** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:22 am

budd wrote: So anyone any thoughts on this?

The yellow paint that is used on the Firestorm is very hard to match (if not even impossible) as others have discovered over the years. What can look a good match in one light will not necessarily look right in a different light. Even if the paint you used was the correct mix there are so many different things that can alter the shade when applied, plus the original paint will have changed over the years from when it was first applied.

I must admit, In your photo the newly painted panel looks more like the later shade of yellow, but probably a trick of the light when the photo was taken if you used the correct paint code.

You most likely will have to get the fairing completely resprayed to get a satisfactory result you're going to be happy with I'm sorry to say.

Chris.

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:35 am

same as what Chris said, the paint is a bigger to match, and will look better or worse depending on the type of lighting.

Have to see how Ziggy got on with his repair, if he got a better paint match [his bike is the same yellow as yours] you could go to his painter, if not you may have to do all 3 parts of the fairing.

and you need to tidy your shed

pariah · Post by **pariah** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:38 pm

Heres a tip for off colour matches.... Blend into the adjacent panel.

Prep the next panel, spray colour out wards using a gentle lifitng motion as you go further into the panel, this allows the paint to thin and fade into the original colour. Let this dry for a few mins then spray the whole panel with clear coat. Now no edge to edge off colour match ?

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