stick coil advice

muppet · Post by **muppet** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:23 pm

any advice on using stick coils, are they all the same size and impedence etc, do they have to be honda or will any work ?

BigVeeGrin · Post by **BigVeeGrin** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:25 pm

plus from me - what's the big deal about them?

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:57 pm

Cbr600rr 03-4
You will need the sub loom also
They are lighter
Burn cleaner
And the revs pick up faster
But no dyno to prove it just seat of pants testing

Can't ride but it don't stop me trying

mik_str · Post by **mik_str** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:39 am

FWIW, I believe mine are from a 2007 CBR600RR.

I stumbled onto this mod a while back on the Speedzilla forum as a few chaps were running these on their SPs, with reports of quicker starting and better response. I have been running mine for just shy of two years now and have no problesm to report. I installed them and a BMC street filter at the same time and it really woke the bike up. One of the Superhawkforum members (Tweety), who has his own dyno, reported a 2 bhp gain whne he tried them (he was so surprised, he double checked by putting the original coils back in and saw the power drop by 2 bhp....) As for the weight loss, I weighed all the bits on my digital scale and making the switch saves 0.8 lb......

A cheap mod with no real downside.

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:40 am

I am looking into doing this over the winter, and as you end up with 4 coils from the cbr600, I imagine that you can do 2 FireStorms from the parts you get.

Lloydie, is it possible to split the loom to convert 2 bikes?

If it is, I will put two coils and the required loom up for sale on here after I buy some off a breakers.

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:41 am

Yep as tony mon had the other two

Can't ride but it don't stop me trying

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:22 pm

I should have 2coils spare as I just ordered 4 for Â£40, but you will need to get your own loom as I have got the offer of the wiring from muppet ( who spotted that you can get the coils as single items from some breakers)

So Â£20 for the 2 coils with a couple of quid to cover postage if any one is interested.

tony.mon · Post by **tony.mon** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:28 pm

lloydiecbr wrote:Yep as tony mon had the other two

Can't ride but it don't stop me trying

Certainly did, fitted and happy; thanks muchly.

A bit lighter, but for me the main thing was clearing access on the lh side for a feed for ram air.

Not got that sorted yet, but with winter looming, I will have a bit of a play.

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:07 pm

link to the USA site for some good photos on how to modify the stick coils to seal in the firestorm

http://www.haymouth.co.uk/phpBB3/viewto ... ls#p152011

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:46 pm

Added photos of my seal mod, as the 600 coils are shorter than the ones in the super hawk photos, but got it to work nicely.

And for the wiring, green on the Storm loom is ground, and black on the new stick loom is ground, so join those wires together, the other colour is the live and it will be different for each coil, so ignore the colour and join them up

muppet · Post by **muppet** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:18 pm

nice job, notice any improvements ? oh and have you fitted the stacks yet ?

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:13 am

Not ridden it yet, still doing the rest of the front coil wiring and fitting heated grips, so don't think I will be out on it till spring at the rate I am working!

tony.mon · Post by **tony.mon** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:39 am

AMCQ46 wrote:Not ridden it yet, still doing the rest of the front coil wiring and fitting heated grips, so don't think I will be out on it till spring at the rate I am working!

....when you won't need the heated grips.....

Kev L · Post by **Kev L** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:02 pm

AMCQ46 wrote:Added photos of my seal mod, as the 600 coils are shorter than the ones in the super hawk photos, but got it to work nicely.

And for the wiring, green on the Storm loom is ground, and black on the new stick loom is ground, so join those wires together, the other colour is the live and it will be different for each coil, so ignore the colour and join them up

Al , how long did you make the LT wires so they fit comfortably? I am going to make up new leads in the correct colours (yeah I know!) using new connectors in the original housings. Thanks for any pointers mate, I can then make them up and plug & play. Cheers.

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:31 pm

I made the front one 50cm long and used some of the original HT lead sheathing to cover the wires where it loops up over the oil cooler.

The rear was done at 37cm long.

Both these lengths have a bit to spare, but better too long than too short .........one of the rules of life

And as I cut up the original coils I hope I got it correct or it won't start

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