Speed limiter?

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Speed limiter?

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Hello. I am a new member from Finland. I bought old Honda (2003) . I like to connect speed limiter off, what shall I do ? I found one text how to do that, but my cluster is not like that ? I looked inside meter panel ,no wires like in " how to do text".
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Re: Speed limiter?

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Unless you have different laws to UK bikes they dont come with a limiter as standard
the older i get,the faster i was :lol:
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I like to know how to bypass limiter. If it is in Ecu ,is it possible to make programming ?
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I do not think the ECU is different for markets where output is limited.
Usually it's just a restriction in the carb mounting rubbers on the engine side, and maybe a few jetting changes.

Pull the carbs off. If you can see the restrictor, buy some UK rubbers and fit those.
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There are some japanese bike models with power reducing by carburator intakes. Speed reducing should be electric function , cutting ignition. I think , there must be wiring from speedo to ecu .This wire gives speed information to ecu unit ?
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Why do you think top speed is limited? What speed does yours "stop" at?
If your ECU is limited somehow (I've never heard of this before) then simply swap it for an ECU from a country where there aren't any restrictions.
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Speed is limited because of laws in some countries. My bike is import from Belgium,perhaps there is speed limit. Somebody told that in Japan is also limited speed. "New" ecu is maybe solution, but I like to know from where ecu get signal from speed. In older year model it gets signal from speedo . Here is discussion of that
. In Germany there was power limit max.100hp. Not sure is it today.
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Yes, that's exactly my point.
All years of the VTR 1000f models did not produce more than 100bhp as standard.

I can't help you with where the ECU gets it's speed signal, but in the absence of wheel-speed strobe wheels it would have to be the
speedo sensor, wouldn't it?

The sensor is on the top of the crankcases above the gearbox, on the rh side. That feeds directly to the instrument cluster, but I do not know whether the electric signal is also sent on the the ECU.

If you're hoping to be able to get more power by snipping a wire, it can't be done as far as I am aware.
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oas wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:11 am Speed is limited because of laws in some countries. My bike is import from Belgium,perhaps there is speed limit. Somebody told that in Japan is also limited speed. "New" ecu is maybe solution, but I like to know from where ecu get signal from speed. In older year model it gets signal from speedo . Here is discussion of that
. In Germany there was power limit max.100hp. Not sure is it today.
Ok my Finish friend, lets clear this up. VTR1000f Firestorm does not have an electronic speed limiter.

It has a rev limiter in the ECU. Maybe your English interpretation of the two, speed/Rev limiter is where we are getting mixed up.

Taking off the rev limiter is probably not a good idea, it's there for a reason. Someone will confirm this but there was a race tuned engine that had a different ECU but the key is there in the race tuned bit.

Even if you could find one and had a very big wallet $$$'s It wouldn't be a lot of use on a standard engine.

So as said a standard VTR is around 100hp & in some countries there were restrictions in the carb rubbers to lower the HP.

Have a look at yours, You will need to take the air box off & remove the carbs, not completely just pop them off the rubbers & you will be able to see if the metal rings have a restriction.

Standard ones should just have a ring around the edge like in the picture below. Anything that's not the same as that is a restriction to the air flow, thus lowering the effective HP.

If you have said restriction either source a new non restricted set or just pull the the metal rings out.


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Re: Speed limiter?

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Ok. Those rubber intakes are limitting power, no top speed?Google : Honda VTR 1000 F speed limit. And then superhawk forum.
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oas wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:32 pm Ok. Those rubber intakes are limitting power, no top speed?Google : Honda VTR 1000 F speed limit. And then superhawk forum.
Is this what you are referring too :?:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forums/t ... out-23700/

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Yes. Thank you !
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Still need wiring diagram from clusterpanel connector. :Argue:
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oas wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:37 pm Still need wiring diagram from clusterpanel connector. :Argue:
There is one connector with 16 pins. I have one wiring ,colours are not same as mine.
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oas wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:41 pm
oas wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:37 pm Still need wiring diagram from clusterpanel connector. :Argue:
There is one connector with 16 pins. I have one wiring ,colours are not same as mine.
I have one wiring DIAGRAM,colours are not same as mine.
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