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[boz]

I have read a similar post to the following, but the solution does not work for me......plus my symptoms are slightly different. So If I am going over old ground, many apologies
My storm has a new battery, the bike is used reguraly and will restart just fine when stopping during a trip or a little while later after getting off.
The problem is that when my bike is parked up in the garage overnight (or a few hours), there doesn't appear to have enough juice in the battery to start it. I end up either bumping it or getting a jump from the car (without engine turned on). After that, off I go and all is fine even if I turn off straight away and start it again. The bike only fails to start after a night in the garage, or after being parked up for a couple of hours.
I have tried several start up methods. Turn it over a couple of times without choke then pull it out on next start. the usual of pull out choke then try to start. Even try to start with no choke and a bit of throttle. All to no avail. After a few turns all I hear is a rapid clicking noise from the sealed compartment behing the battery. It appears to be flat but when I put it on the charger, the lights indicate that the battery is about two thirds charged! I have been stuck far from home a few weeks back after leaving the bike for 5 hours with the same no starting result, cue the AA!
I have had the battery checked out from the guy who sold me it and all is fine....its a sealed lead acid.
I would appreciate all input thanks.

[Jazzscot]

have you checked the front connection to the starter motor???

It stst right at the front of the engine and tends to pick up loads of crap etc.

Make sure it is making a proper connection give it a good spray etc.

[Jazzscot]

have you checked the front connection to the starter motor???

It sits right at the front of the engine and tends to pick up loads of crap etc.

Make sure it is making a proper connection give it a good spray etc.

[boz]

Tried that thanks but no joy. Now the damn thing won't start after a jump

[Wicky]

Check your battery connections as they can vibrate loose, & starter relay, & starter motor where it connects under the rubber hood. Is your R/R an upgraded one or an early unfinned version?

[tony.mon]

Tried that thanks but no joy. Now the damn thing won't start after a jump

The lead itself going from the relay to the starter motor can break down internally. To check this try clamping a jump lead from the output connection on the relay onto the end of the starter motor bolt.
Don't let it touch the starter motor body.
If it now starts, it's the lead.

Otherwise, starter motor itself, brushes etc.

But I'm still suspicious of the battery.

[hellride]

I had acar once with that exact problem. Turned out to be the ground cable from the battery. The attachment to the chassi were corroded. New cable n a clean up and it worked fine.

[boz]

Cheers for the advice everyone. Have twiddled about today and reached some conclusions;

Battery was fine after charge, but voltage dropped to under 6v when start was attempted. New battery on order. Gonna go with this first to see if it cures.
Have also ordered a new R/R (updated one) as a matter of course. Want to replace dodgy parts anyway (had CCT's done already).
Did wiring check on R/R, all is well. Tested starter relay and all is good as well.
So, if the new battery and R/R cures it, result. If not, have been told that apart from the parts already listed, I should look at the starter motor and starter clutch along with various possible wiring problems.
Mate reckons I've bought a duff bike....my response is great but flawed - like Gazza, Alfa Romeos, Maradona, Keith Richards and Peter Griffin!!!
Gonna do the filters and fluids as well.
Thanks everyone

[tony.mon]

6v won't start it, nohow, no way.

I have a voltage display on mine, and even when the battery's too low to turn it over, it only drops to 11 point something volts, so there's your problem.

[boz]

Its all fixed now and all good......thanks for the input everyone.
Put a premium battery in there (one of those yellow ones with the 2 sets of terminals £48) and replaced the R/R for the improved Honda part with the cooling fins. Started first time. Been out for a blast and its running sweet

[toonarmy]

hello mate where did you get the r/r and are they comon for failing

[darkember]

Its all fixed now and all good......thanks for the input everyone.
Put a premium battery in there (one of those yellow ones with the 2 sets of terminals £48) and replaced the R/R for the improved Honda part with the cooling fins. Started first time. Been out for a blast and its running sweet

Just to be on the safe side check the charging voltage across the battery with the bike at 3000 rpm. You should be getting a DC reading of 13.8-14.2 volts. If you are getting anything lower your onboard charging system/altenator could be suspect & it will eventually foobar your new battery.

[boz]

hello mate where did you get the r/r and are they comon for failing

From what I understand yes there is a type that is crap.......it doesn't have cooling fins. I got this better one from this link:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 715wt_1272

I'm sure someone will give you a more technical explanation. I found out the standard one on my 2000 Storm was dodgy so changed it as a matter of course

[boz]

Its all fixed now and all good......thanks for the input everyone.
Put a premium battery in there (one of those yellow ones with the 2 sets of terminals £48) and replaced the R/R for the improved Honda part with the cooling fins. Started first time. Been out for a blast and its running sweet

Just to be on the safe side check the charging voltage across the battery with the bike at 3000 rpm. You should be getting a DC reading of 13.8-14.2 volts. If you are getting anything lower your onboard charging system/altenator could be suspect & it will eventually foobar your new battery.

Will do boss......thanks