So does it really just come down to wear and tear as in one will last a lot longer than the other?. I don't brake hard cos my friggin brakes are sh1t hot!! I don't need to..
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lloydie wrote:From what I've read people that have used both ebc and brembo they won't buy ebc again .
I'm trying brembos next just to see what all the fuss is about .
+1leevtr wrote:Another one of those dilemas that I dont really get. I always use original Honda pads, never, ever do they lack stopping power, nor have they worn out exceptionally quickly. Some people want more power from their brakes, but while theyre good enough to flip the bike over its nose or overwhelm the front tyre, I cant see the need to change.
Bendix pads al is kevs pads of choice and are good .AMCQ46 wrote:I think good brakes are a more important mod than doing your engine up, and they need to be strong, easy to modulate and have good progressive initial bite.... You can never have enough brakes![]()
And If I base my opinions on my own bike, the firestorm does none of these things as a std bike. And yes that is with cleaned calipers and pistons, std and EBC pads, ss hoses...the lot.. The brakes are still not strong enough ... On my bike!
So I have fitted bigger piston calipers and the correct master cyl to match, giving improved hydraulic advantage as well as bigger pistons. With this set up I have now used std Honda, EBC HH and now brembo road pads.
Honda were close to the EBC in my view, with a good initial bite, but the EBC edged it on over all power, but i was still using 3 or 4 fingers for big stops. The brembo beats them both with a good progressive bite, more power and I am mostly using 2 fingers for all stopping.
So my next pads will not be EBC or Honda, they will be brembo or perhaps I will try the dyno mans suggestion which were ferodo (I might be wrong on that but I did write it down some where!)
But currently brembo is the new baseline.
..and there you have it..leevtr wrote:Another one of those dilemas that I dont really get. I always use original Honda pads, never, ever do they lack stopping power, nor have they worn out exceptionally quickly. Some people want more power from their brakes, but while they're good enough to flip the bike over its nose or overwhelm the front tyre, I cant see the need to change.
AMCQ46 wrote:I think good brakes are a more important mod than doing your engine up, and they need to be strong, easy to modulate and have good progressive initial bite.... You can never have enough brakes: Thanks for that bit, my brakes are really good so however/whoever had my previously certainly made sure of that and I suspect it ws pre Marravtr. :-)
And If I base my opinions on my own bike, the firestorm does none of these things as a std bike. And yes that is with cleaned calipers and pistons, std and EBC pads, ss hoses...the lot.. The brakes are still not strong enough ... On my bike! Crikey!
So I have fitted bigger piston calipers and the correct master cyl to match, giving improved hydraulic advantage as well as bigger pistons. With this set up I have now used std Honda, EBC HH and now brembo road pads.![]()
Honda were close to the EBC in my view, with a good initial bite, but the EBC edged it on over all power, but i was still using 3 or 4 fingers for big stops. The brembo beats them both with a good progressive bite, more power and I am mostly using 2 fingers for all stopping. That's another piece I was looking for![]()
So my next pads will not be EBC or Honda, they will be brembo or perhaps I will try the dyno mans suggestion which were ferodo (I might be wrong on that but I did write it down some where!)
But currently brembo is the new baseline.
Are you referring to the Brermbo pads Chris. They are indeed very thin compared to other brands but wear very slowly.One little tip worth noting that caught me out once, is the front pads don't have that much thickness to them when new. I bought some new (Honda OEM) front pads when I thought mine were getting down.
Well... Since I really would suggest getting either F4i or 929/954/RC calipers with a matching master cylinder fitted anyway, that shouldn't be a huge problem really... I'm using HRC hard bite on my CBR 1000RR brakes/forks, and while I have a hard time believing anything can better them, I'm going to try mik_str's suggestion next season, as these are almost worn out now...Wicky wrote:Only problem is that they don't appear to do them for Firestorm OEM calipers, presumably you've got different braking system fitted.
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