Footrest Stay Bolt removal - Advice please!

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Footrest Stay Bolt removal - Advice please!

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Hi,

TonyMon kindly furnished me with some new link pipes, as my left hand one is deformed/crushed. However when I tried removing the bolt holding the pipe to the footrest it's rounded (allen head flange bolt). I can't get a spanner on the other end, what's the best way to tackle this?

Starting to get depressed now, everything on this dog is seized. Same problem where the hugger attaches on the swingarm at the rear :sick: :sick: :sick:
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Mav617 wrote:Hi,

TonyMon kindly furnished me with some new link pipes, as my left hand one is deformed/crushed. However when I tried removing the bolt holding the pipe to the footrest it's rounded (allen head flange bolt). I can't get a spanner on the other end, what's the best way to tackle this?

Starting to get depressed now, everything on this dog is seized. Same problem where the hugger attaches on the swingarm at the rear :sick: :sick: :sick:
If you have a Dremell type tool cut a slot in it to use a screwdriver, the heat it causes during the cutting will also help. The other thing if you have enough room is to grind flats on it to allow the use of a spanner.

Also give it & everything else you want to undo a thorough soaking with PLUS GAS overnight. Dont bother with WD40 as its not the same thing despite what it says on the tin. PLUS GAS is much better.

Also as a thought take the whole footrest off + the link pipe & work on it on a bench It'll give you more room to attack the nut.
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Thanks Mac,

No Dremel, guess I'll have to spend some more f**kin' money on the heap! Can't grind flats as it's button/flange type head.

To Take the footrest off I assume I'll need to put the wheels back in so I can take it off the Abba stand?
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Mav617 wrote:Thanks Mac,

No Dremel, guess I'll have to spend some more f**kin' money on the heap! Can't grind flats as it's button/flange type head.

To Take the footrest off I assume I'll need to put the wheels back in so I can take it off the Abba stand?
Abba stand will have to come off yes but cant you hang it from a rafter ?

Re the lack dremel, anyone local got one you can borrow, maybe family...? You must know someone who has one...?
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Just re reading your first post are we talking about the link pipe connected to the front footrest ?

If so as the link pipe is fubard why not just cut it off & then you'll be able to get to the nut on the back. Just a thought...
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Hi Mac,

No rafters to dangle it from, hence the Abba. No one I know has a dremel, I've bought a similar one (Argos) so I'll have a go at "slotting it" (sounds like the SAS taking it on). Indeed the link pipe is fubar'd so that's a good suggestion mate :wink:
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Two things, if you keep rounding allen socket head bolts off is it perhaps your allen key set?
They don't last forever, same with screwdrivers.
Get a decent quality set, otherwise this is going to be an ongoing issue.

If they're ok, why can't you get a spanner on the locknut at the back?
If it's the swingarm that's in the way, either remove the shock linkage or bottom mount bolt and compress the rear suspension as far as it will go, leaving access to that bolt, or maybe just ask a fat mate or two to sit on it?

You had a problem with the LH side, so that's the side with the swingarm pivot bolt nut on it. Remove the lower footrest mounting cap head, (don't round it off....!) and then loosen the SA locknut, this will allow the footrest to move out from the SA and you should be able to get to the back nut.
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tony.mon wrote:Two things, if you keep rounding allen socket head bolts off is it perhaps your allen key set?
They don't last forever, same with screwdrivers.
Get a decent quality set, otherwise this is going to be an ongoing issue.

If they're ok, why can't you get a spanner on the locknut at the back?
If it's the swingarm that's in the way, either remove the shock linkage or bottom mount bolt and compress the rear suspension as far as it will go, leaving access to that bolt, or maybe just ask a fat mate or two to sit on it?

You had a problem with the LH side, so that's the side with the swingarm pivot bolt nut on it. Remove the lower footrest mounting cap head, (don't round it off....!) and then loosen the SA locknut, this will allow the footrest to move out from the SA and you should be able to get to the back nut.
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To add to Tony's tool advice Try getting a general purpose 3/8" allen socket set. Plus plenty of mixed variety allen bolt packs on fleabay to replace existing cheesey bolts along with a dab of copper grease to make things easier for future maintenance.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_255215

and as you need them larger ½" sockets for larger bolts i.e swing arm, shock linkages.

A thin spanner should be able to get at & hold the 'hidden' nut.

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Thanks fellas, I bought new Allen sockets and keys when I got the bike, knowing it was going to be a pig (even then I underestimated it).

Dremel type tool on way, slots/big screwdriver, plenty of PlusGas, then put it all back together and get fookin' rid is how I feel right now.
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Don't let it beat you, take it as a challenge. Now repeat after me. I will not be beaten, I will not be beaten, I will not be beaten, I will not be beaten......

Half the battle with things like this is having the right tool for the job. :thumbup:

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cybercarl wrote:Don't let it beat you, take it as a challenge. Now repeat after me. I will beat it, I will beat it, I will beat it, I be beat it......

Half the battle with things like this is having big enough hammer for the job. :thumbup:

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cybercarl wrote:......

Half the battle with things like this is having the right tool for the job. :thumbup:

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And the other half is having Carl live near by :D
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AMCQ46 wrote:
cybercarl wrote:......

Half the battle with things like this is having the right tool for the job. :thumbup:

(:-})
And the other half is having Carl live near by :D
Half ???

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And the other half is having Carl live near by :D
But Cheshire (land of the cats :lol: ) is closer to Brummy land. :biggrin

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