blue smoke from both the mufflers
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blue smoke from both the mufflers
Hi guys,
I think I'm in trouble, my storm has start to smoke blue from both the mufflers at high rpm during acceleration (6000+)
For the skilled people on the forum is the firestorm more prone to wear the piston rings or the valve stem seals? the bike as 80000 km but still run like a train, I don't want to dismiss it
thanks a lot
I think I'm in trouble, my storm has start to smoke blue from both the mufflers at high rpm during acceleration (6000+)
For the skilled people on the forum is the firestorm more prone to wear the piston rings or the valve stem seals? the bike as 80000 km but still run like a train, I don't want to dismiss it
thanks a lot
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
Rings&bores , do a compression test .
Oh and keep an eye on the oil level (worth carrying 500mls under the seat (in a bottle) :-))
Oh and keep an eye on the oil level (worth carrying 500mls under the seat (in a bottle) :-))
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
thank u lloydie for your realism
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
at 80k shes getting on so a we refresh will help..
the older i get,the faster i was
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced...
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced...
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
as loydie said do a compression test and see which pot is low, could well be both pots are the same and they both need a refresh.
the older i get,the faster i was
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
easy fix check the spark plugs....tastethefloor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:08 am how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced...
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
if I found oil on them ?fulviogsx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 ameasy fix check the spark plugs....tastethefloor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:08 am how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced...
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
Your question was about which head need to be serviced.if you found oil on both,both heads need to be servicedtastethefloor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:40 amif I found oil on them ?fulviogsx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 ameasy fix check the spark plugs....tastethefloor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:08 am how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced...
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
yes sorryfulviogsx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:35 amYour question was about which head need to be serviced.if you found oil on both,both heads need to be serviced
I just found the front cylinder plug a little wet, the rear is perfect
hope is a valve seal or guide...if not I'm wombles
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
do a compression check on the front, then pour some oil into the cylinder and if your figures go up id be thinking its rings.
the older i get,the faster i was
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
..mm..
i'm little more oriented to the heads zone ( valve seals). it 's quite difficult to find different level of wear between two cylinders...
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
is the front head removable with the engine on the frame?
Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
Yes - IIRC you'll first need to move some gubbins out of the way to wield your way in and out...tastethefloor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:48 pm is the front head removable with the engine on the frame?
It may be that your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers
Indeed.
Seat, tank, airbox, carbs, undertray, exhaust system, drain coolant, rads off, unbolt oil cooler fixing and lay it down out of the way. You don't need to disconnect the coolers lower connections or drain the oil.
Then you can set the engine to tdc compression on the front, remove cct and cams and unbolt the head.
Seat, tank, airbox, carbs, undertray, exhaust system, drain coolant, rads off, unbolt oil cooler fixing and lay it down out of the way. You don't need to disconnect the coolers lower connections or drain the oil.
Then you can set the engine to tdc compression on the front, remove cct and cams and unbolt the head.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.